The Boston Marathon and U.S. Drone Attacks: a Tale of Two Terrorisms

15 Apr
Under President Obama, the number of civilian deaths due to drone strikes has increased since the Bush Administration.

Under President Obama, the number of civilian deaths due to drone strikes has increased since the Bush Administration.

Earth First! Newswire

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To murder several runners using bombs at a sporting event is terrorism.

To murder 175 children using military drones is U.S. policy.

We should accept neither. We should fight against both.

List of children killed by U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen:

Compiled from The Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports

PAKISTAN

Name | Age | Gender

Noor Aziz | 8 | male
Abdul Wasit | 17 | male
Noor Syed | 8 | male
Wajid Noor | 9 | male
Syed Wali Shah | 7 | male
Ayeesha | 3 | female
Qari Alamzeb | 14| male
Shoaib | 8 | male
Hayatullah KhaMohammad | 16 | male
Tariq Aziz | 16 | male
Sanaullah Jan | 17 | male
Maezol Khan | 8 | female
Nasir Khan | male
Naeem Khan | male
Naeemullah | male
Mohammad Tahir | 16 | male
Azizul Wahab | 15 | male
Fazal Wahab | 16 | male
Ziauddin | 16 | male
Mohammad Yunus | 16 | male
Fazal Hakim | 19 | male
Ilyas | 13 | male
Sohail | 7 | male
Asadullah | 9 | male
khalilullah | 9 | male
Noor Mohammad | 8 | male
Khalid | 12 | male
Saifullah | 9 | male
Mashooq Jan | 15 | male
Nawab | 17 | male
Sultanat Khan | 16 | male
Ziaur Rahman | 13 | male
Noor Mohammad | 15 | male
Mohammad Yaas Khan | 16 | male
Qari Alamzeb | 14 | male
Ziaur Rahman | 17 | male
Abdullah | 18 | male
Ikramullah Zada | 17 | male
Inayatur Rehman | 16 | male
Shahbuddin | 15 | male
Yahya Khan | 16 |male
Rahatullah |17 | male
Mohammad Salim | 11 | male
Shahjehan | 15 | male
Gul Sher Khan | 15 | male
Bakht Muneer | 14 | male
Numair | 14 | male
Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
Ihsanullah | 16 | male
Luqman | 12 | male
Jannatullah | 13 | male
Ismail | 12 | male
Taseel Khan | 18 | male
Zaheeruddin | 16 | male
Qari Ishaq | 19 | male
Jamshed Khan | 14 | male
Alam Nabi | 11 | male
Qari Abdul Karim | 19 | male
Rahmatullah | 14 | male
Abdus Samad | 17 | male
Siraj | 16 | male
Saeedullah | 17 | male
Abdul Waris | 16 | male
Darvesh | 13 | male
Ameer Said | 15 | male
Shaukat | 14 | male
Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
Salman | 12 | male
Fazal Wahab | 18 | male
Baacha Rahman | 13 | male
Wali-ur-Rahman | 17 | male
Iftikhar | 17 | male
Inayatullah | 15 | male
Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
Ihsanullah | 16 | male
Luqman | 12 | male
Jannatullah | 13 | male
Ismail | 12 | male
Abdul Waris | 16 | male
Darvesh | 13 | male
Ameer Said | 15 | male
Shaukat | 14 | male
Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
Adnan | 16 | male
Najibullah | 13 | male
Naeemullah | 17 | male
Hizbullah | 10 | male
Kitab Gul | 12 | male
Wilayat Khan | 11 | male
Zabihullah | 16 | male
Shehzad Gul | 11 | male
Shabir | 15 | male
Qari Sharifullah | 17 | male
Shafiullah | 16 | male
Nimatullah | 14 | male
Shakirullah | 16 | male
Talha | 8 | male

YEMEN

Afrah Ali Mohammed Nasser | 9 | female
Zayda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 7 | female
Hoda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 5 | female
Sheikha Ali Mohammed Nasser | 4 | female
Ibrahim Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 13 | male
Asmaa Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 9 | male
Salma Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | female
Fatima Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 3 | female
Khadije Ali Mokbel Louqye | 1 | female
Hanaa Ali Mokbel Louqye | 6 | female
Mohammed Ali Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | male
Jawass Mokbel Salem Louqye | 15 | female
Maryam Hussein Abdullah Awad | 2 | female
Shafiq Hussein Abdullah Awad | 1 | female
Sheikha Nasser Mahdi Ahmad Bouh | 3 | female
Maha Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 12 | male
Soumaya Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 9 | female
Shafika Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 4 | female
Shafiq Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 2 | male
Mabrook Mouqbal Al Qadari | 13 | male
Daolah Nasser 10 years | 10 | female
AbedalGhani Mohammed Mabkhout | 12 | male
Abdel- Rahman Anwar al Awlaki | 16 | male
Abdel-Rahman al-Awlaki | 17 | male
Nasser Salim | 19

377 Responses to “The Boston Marathon and U.S. Drone Attacks: a Tale of Two Terrorisms”

  1. Damon April 15, 2013 at 8:00 pm #

    It takes immense courage to say the brutal truth!🙂

    • Mike Robertson April 16, 2013 at 10:12 am #

      Can you also list all of the children and other innocent civilians that have been killed due to terrorist attacks within these countries. Unfortunately, that will be a much larger number but is not as politically correct to comment.

      • Chris April 16, 2013 at 12:36 pm #

        so that some how justifies killing other children in those countries?

      • Laurence Foenander April 16, 2013 at 1:02 pm #

        Why make this a forum for political statement?? Killing Children anywhere in the world for whatever reason is abhorrent!!

      • Brain Griffen April 16, 2013 at 2:49 pm #

        @ Mike Robertson, well if you want to play it like that, why not use your supposedly intellect and go further and ask for the list of all the innocent men, women and children killed by US terrorism, oops sorry, I meant foreign policy or my favorite one: collateral, since the 60’s? I think you’re find the number will run into the millions.

      • Geo April 16, 2013 at 3:01 pm #

        you mean by Al CIAda ??

      • Javier Magana April 16, 2013 at 4:22 pm #

        Just caz a next country does it doesnt mean its ok for the US to do it. 2 wrongs doesnt make a right

      • Confuscious April 16, 2013 at 5:09 pm #

        Yes…so lets create a policy to go and kill the children who the terrorists didn’t kill yet… I mean, it’s only right.

      • me first April 16, 2013 at 7:05 pm #

        you need to study the history of terrorism. Find out how many people the West has killed in about 100 years then you can come to a different conclusion. But you are missing the point. United States is supposed to be an elected government promising to uphold the law and international standards of human rights not a bunch of criminal terrorist. Since when the terrorist set the standards for government behavior.While you are at it look into the support Us gives to the terrorists who are fighting on US’s behalf against any government who disagrees with US Imperial hegemony.

      • Raaman Venmarathoor (@vemman) April 17, 2013 at 12:43 am #

        Killing anyone anywhere by anyone is simple B$

      • Cheytac April 17, 2013 at 2:37 am #

        Don’t let the innocent die.

      • andreas April 17, 2013 at 11:28 am #

        Yes!. We are “Fighting for Peace”…kinda reminds “Fucking for Virginity”

      • Kratoklastes April 18, 2013 at 7:46 pm #

        Politically correct… what absolute nonsense: trying to pretend that ‘terrrrrists’ do all the killing is THE MOST ‘politically correct’ load of hokum imaginable.

        Let’s also include the HALF A MILLION Iraqi children under 5 that were killed by US sanctions (and bombing of water treatment plants and sewage works) between 1991 and 1996… the children whose deaths Madeleine Albright said were “worth it”.

        Notice that Albright did not dispute the figure: the figure has never been disputed. She simply made clear – on a nationally-televised show (60 Minutes) – that the US government thought so little of directly causing a half-million children to die (bear in mind that IRaq in 1996 was a country of 20 million – so 500k Iraqi children is the same proportionate loss as 5 MILLION US children).

        The kill-count from “terrorists” (people who have bombs but no air force) is several orders of magnitude less than the kill-count of the US government – and dullards like you think that the US government is about spreading ‘freedom’, for no reason other that it TELLS you to believe that.

      • sherry awan April 23, 2013 at 3:21 pm #

        If American stop killing children in Middle east nobody would try to target them

    • XXX April 16, 2013 at 10:31 am #

      No… It doesn’t… It takes brain.

    • E April 16, 2013 at 11:33 am #

      It takes BOTH!

    • David April 16, 2013 at 3:00 pm #

      Any way to verify that list? Could be totally made up.

      • Paul April 16, 2013 at 4:40 pm #

        lol someone doesn’t get the point here

      • machiavellisdunny April 17, 2013 at 5:43 am #

        You’re not an Israeli by any chance are you?

      • Kratoklastes April 18, 2013 at 8:01 pm #

        Dude, read much?

        The list is compiled from BIJ reports: the BIJ gets their information from official sources.

        But by all means, cast completely ignorant aspersions without bothering to do the slightest bit of your own research… who do you think will wind up looking non-credible? (Hint 1: it’s not BIJ or this site; Hint 2: find a mirror).

    • Lawrence April 17, 2013 at 12:51 am #


      Very Informative documentary! Must see !!

    • Hamza tariq April 17, 2013 at 2:36 pm #

      Mein aik pakistani hu aur marta dam tak pakistani hy rhu ga…koi mujha bta sakta ha amerikio ko pakistan mein drone lana aur girana ki ijazat kon deta ha ????????

      • Ashraf Rizvi April 18, 2013 at 5:29 pm #

        Pakistan heen izazat deta hae mere bhai, sirf Pakistan.

    • Questionable April 26, 2013 at 2:53 am #

      Except the source is not credible and there is no reference source for the image used. So truth is a very questionable word in this use.

  2. annaracecaranna April 15, 2013 at 8:23 pm #

    Reblogged this on annaracecaranna.

    • george April 16, 2013 at 9:37 am #

      I am a veteran of multiple deployments to the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. I noticed that the majority of the names on this list are older teen that in the US we consider children. In the middle east teens are considered adults and fight as adults as well.I can only speculate, but I imagine that the majority of these “children” died as militants.

      • chip April 16, 2013 at 11:47 am #

        Good thing they got Ayeesha at age 3 then.

        Sounds like your imagination is trying to protect your sanity.

      • Parveen April 16, 2013 at 11:48 am #

        The invention and creation of developing new weapons, what use would it be, if not tried on underdeveloped countries like ours. Its our own people buying and using to suppress and rule us by unlawful way. As long as these people survive there could never be peace on this earth. It goes both ways, we buy- they prosper?

      • Frank April 16, 2013 at 11:56 am #

        These people are murdered in their own country by foreigners. What is a ”militant”? Somebody defending their own country from american terrorists.Shame on you.

      • Madison April 16, 2013 at 11:56 am #

        Really? Didn’t know 8 year old kids were militants too. \sarcasm

      • Nina April 16, 2013 at 12:03 pm #

        Is that your excuse for the killing?…that they were militants. What proof do you have?…And what then is your excuse for scores of other younger children killed? Imagine if the roles were reversed, would you and I take it as Americans?

      • ELIAS April 16, 2013 at 12:11 pm #

        AS A VETERAN AND PROFESSOR OF ISLAMIC LAW,I CAN STATE THAT TEENS ARE NOT CONSIDERED ADULTS IN THE TEEN YEARS IN THE MIDDLE EAST.YOU WORK FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT SO YOU WOULD MAKE SUCH STATEMENT.I WORK FOR MYSELF AND AM A U.S. CITIZEN SO I AM NOT SILENCED TO SPEAK AS YOU ARE.STOP TELLING LIES AND MAKING EXCUSES FOR U.S.TERRORISM BEING COMMITTED ALL OVER THE WORLD.

      • lim April 16, 2013 at 12:24 pm #

        This is sick. Just because they are fighting it doesn’t change the fact that they are children. Child soldiers are still victims.

      • Wes Bryan April 16, 2013 at 12:27 pm #

        If one of your kids were listed above, I bet you wouldn’t feel that same way. America is a terrorist state.

      • Dan April 16, 2013 at 12:39 pm #

        So if someone invaded our country and teens fought back (like in a recent made for TV special), then they would be heroes. If someone resists us, they are militant terrorists? SCOTUS, (Justice John Jay Marshall) when confronted with whether we have the right to occupy territory responded yes, “by right of conquest. So, if that logic is universal, then if someone can take over, occupy “our” land then they have every right to do so.

        And, maybe some of these kids were fighting back. But not all of them. And exactly how does one strike back against drones? I accept your patriotic intentions, but sadly, you were engaged in the invasion of another country under false pretenses, lies by our leaders (whether Rep or Dem).

      • Ana April 16, 2013 at 12:43 pm #

        speculate and imagine that the list is of american youth and kids; then is not the same. People are dead people…stop all war !

      • Mick April 16, 2013 at 12:57 pm #

        Get your head checked George! You are clearly in a severe state of
        denial. Killed many 10year old militants yourself?
        Thanks for saving the world! My hero!!!

      • Xavier April 16, 2013 at 12:59 pm #

        They must be some pretty mean-ass 5 year olds, I’ll be damned!

      • Héctor April 16, 2013 at 1:04 pm #

        of course, that thought will make you feel better after participating, shame on you!

      • Debbie April 16, 2013 at 1:22 pm #

        you have to be kidding me George…..in the middle east teens are considered adults by means of reaching puberty…now have the ability to be faced with responsibilities just as adults do – a teenager, especially not a 16/17 year old child would not be fighting in a war. these kids would have been collateral damage as the US terms it. Thinking they were militants is quite honestly insulting the readers intelligence.

      • Dan April 16, 2013 at 3:34 pm #

        During Vietnam the US used the same logic, anyone, any adult or child, male or female, any age could be an enemy therefore free-fire zones (violations of international law and our own law) were okay, kill anything that moved. Shame on us all. Blowback will someday be a bitch.

      • Andrew April 16, 2013 at 1:31 pm #

        No.

        This list does not include children that have been strapped up with explosives, or children that have taken up arms against US soldiers.

        This is a list of civilian children, with no proven “affiliation” to terrorist activity, who have been killed as “acceptable collateral damage” from drone strikes – in countries which we aren’t even at war with.

      • Debbie April 16, 2013 at 1:32 pm #

        One more question George. As a war veteran in another country, (not your own) protecting your country (in theirs), would you have killed these so called militants (teenagers) in self defence????? considering it is their country (not yours). What were you doing in their country in the first place which means it could not be self defence – in fact it would have been self defence for these teenagers – as you dont belong there and are occupying their land. Having said it had you killed a teenager, it would have been classed as murder, so with this blood on your hands to call any child a militant is a cowardice approach and i can only hope that your children dont have to face the same cowardice political decisions being made daily by your head of country, go to war and lose their life while protecting their country, while fighting in another country

      • samuel April 16, 2013 at 1:35 pm #

        Not all of them fight, we do not consider them, adults at all until they reached 18. Look at the military laws over there, you cannot join the military if you are under 18. In the US, if you are under 18 you do not allow to smoke, but when you trun on 18, you smoke as a proffesional and look for glass tubes as well.

      • Stephanie Crocker (@Ensign_poo) April 16, 2013 at 2:13 pm #

        Does that mean it was okay?

      • marco April 16, 2013 at 2:22 pm #

        your comment george, its plain douchebag, a child is a child in any country, saying they are militants to cover up a stupid act is no better than being the actual killer.

        what right does USA have to invade and attack other countrys?

      • tess April 16, 2013 at 2:54 pm #

        Thanks for your Service George! Thanks for leaving your family and life and risking your life to protect our Country! It must have been horrible for you.

      • Brain Griffen April 16, 2013 at 3:29 pm #

        As a veteran police officer who’s done his tour in some of Washington DC’s violent areas, there are far more worse teenagers in our own backyard capable of even worse violence (usually for no reason) then in Pakistan or Yemen, if what you say is true. Why don’t we send drones in to kill them as well? It will save the tax payers lots of money and we can use that to develop more drones to kill more children who are defending their country, if what you say is true.

      • zTim April 16, 2013 at 3:34 pm #

        you can try to define it in any way you like George. But the end of the day civilians is civilians regardless of their age.

      • hilal April 16, 2013 at 3:56 pm #

        forget all and consider only these three
        Salma Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | female
        Fatima Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 3 | female
        Khadije Ali Mokbel Louqye | 1 | female
        Are you still claiming that they are militants? I think you are thinking they were born as terrorist not baby.

      • Roberto April 16, 2013 at 4:19 pm #

        In USA at 18 you are too child to have a drink at a bar… but you’re a “man” for war and killings

      • Azucar Morena (@Azuquita_Morena) April 16, 2013 at 5:42 pm #

        Your lack of sympathy is despicable. Gee, come Veterans day I do hope the elites appreciates and celebrate all the evil work you have done for their interests.

      • damon April 16, 2013 at 5:43 pm #

        I seriously hope you read the replies to your comment. Telling yourself this allows you to sleep at night. I only have one question for you. What was your political stance at the age of 9? Your reasoning scares us, it saddens us and frustrates me beyond words. We see children, you see a target. You are psychologically damaged, you are NOT a force for good in this world.

      • Ivan Marquez April 16, 2013 at 7:55 pm #

        “spanish”
        la verdad no dudo que estos extremistas utilicen niños george, pero siendo sinceros y con todo respeto dudo mucho que un niño de 3 o la niña de 4 sean un peligro latente para tu seguridad “soldado”.

        no es novedad y todos lo sabemos:
        SI atacan a usa le llaman terrorismo.
        Si USA ataca a los demás le llaman búsqueda de la libertad.

      • Joe April 16, 2013 at 8:55 pm #

        sadly you had been brainwashed in the military for so long that no longer have a feel for another person’s life.

      • ziad April 17, 2013 at 4:48 am #

        woooooooooooooow…..how much clever you are……go fus

      • m Ejaz April 17, 2013 at 4:52 am #

        I hate it when people justify killing, because once you do that it’s OK to kill. I mean even Hitler didn’t ‘just kill for the fun of it he had a (what he thought) good enough reason.
        If a 3 year old or a 17 year old can fight like a adult (meaning able to fire a gun) doesn’t make them a legitimate targets. Beside we’re ‘suppose to be honour some kind of global standards, phew!

        The US in recent history has started to beat the terror groups at their own game, meaning unjust killings, disregards to international law, disregard to safety of thier own people, using their own public in any way, and so on.

      • Ziad Tahabsom April 17, 2013 at 4:54 am #

        woooooooooooooow…..how much clever you are……as a veteran, how many Iraqis have been killed by 30 days of air bombing every building in Bagdad??? go play baby

      • machiavellisdunny April 17, 2013 at 5:46 am #

        Did you mean “children” or “militants” US Military policy seems to struggle in differentiating the two.

      • Chriss April 17, 2013 at 6:25 am #

        What are you doing outside your country? What do you think you are? You are cause of shit happens in all over the world.
        If you are blind…we aren’t.

      • Linch Pin April 17, 2013 at 7:26 am #

        It makes me feel disgusted to know people like you can be so ignorant and imbecile to an extend that you cannot see any difference between militants and a 7 years old child. Its a shame! real shame!

      • Frank April 17, 2013 at 10:44 am #

        You’re an idiot.

  3. LeonPeace April 16, 2013 at 12:43 am #

    I am amazed someone had the courage to post the truth. It’s not just Pakistan , yameb there aremillions and millions of other people. People of Vietnam ,Afghanistan , Iraq ( the people of WMD , never been found) People of Japan . Somalia is also one of the lab ratt for this US. This is terrorism these are the terrorist.

    • God Bless America April 16, 2013 at 3:54 pm #

      Why is the United States the only Terrorists? Isn’t flying airplanes into the Pentagon and into the World Trade Center an act of terrorism. That was terrorism and ignorance and disgust! WE found back, WE rose above it, and WE stuck together as a family, the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! If you don’t like it here, LEAVE!
      A child is a child, but we don’t train and FORCE our children to carry bombs around and blow people up, WE don’t train and FORCE our children to shoot guns and kill people. Our military on a voluntary basis, and they are not CHILDREN! My heart goes out to the poor children of other countries that are made and trained to kill. But they didn’t have a choice, and are WE supposed to stand there and let them kill us and blow us up just because they are a child? If a child comes up to me with a gun in my face and is going to kill me and my children, then I have to make a choice, Me or Them. It is the same way here in the USA, if a child is going to kill someone, it’s Them or Me.
      Pearl Harbor, was that terrorism? Why is it that only Americans are terrorists?

      • Logan April 16, 2013 at 6:50 pm #

        What you’re saying is complete bullshit..Do you really believe these shitty stories they tell you?If only you could stop for a moment and think about what they make us believe,you’ll understand that what United States do against innocent people is far more serious than anything these “terrorists” you say could do.

      • German April 16, 2013 at 7:07 pm #

        NOT ONLY!! BUT STILL!! You´re so proud of being American… are you proud of the death of those children?!?! Are you proud of these:

        I really hate blind and senseless patriotism all over the world. Extremists must be treated as mentally ill people. In no way any of these acts can be excused!!!

        My heart goes for all the victims in Boston and the Middle East.

        G

      • Rluen April 16, 2013 at 7:20 pm #

        Bin Laden was trained by the US Government, used by it to fight the USSR with thousands of other terrorists. When they where of no use to the interest of your government they where abandoned, trained to kill and hate. It’s very regrettable that it backslashed in the dead of innocent people instead of the idiots in the pentagon or the weapons manufacturers that gave the orders and teach them and YOU to hate.
        The possibility that a middle eastern teenager goes to your country to kill you is really, really, really, really, really next to zero, 0.0000095 percent of the US population dies in a terrorist attack in USA soil, I did the math (none of them where made by teenagers or children by the way)
        But by, all means, if little Azzis goes with his AK-47 (10th birthday present of course) to your suburban redneck neighborhood, to kill you and your family feel free to blow him into pieces.
        But don’t justify the murder of children, in the name protection of a ridiculous menace, you live in one of the safest moments in history in one of the safest countries, it’s very likely that you will grow old and die thanks to the cokes and hamburgers and all those symbols of freedom that you love so much.
        Love you!

      • Rluen April 16, 2013 at 7:23 pm #

        And it’s written nowhere that the only terrorists are from the US.
        Read carefully

      • nope April 16, 2013 at 10:54 pm #

        I really hope what happened in Boston happens to you next. you are the worst type of “American”.

      • The Mentalist (@AACJRFVOXO) April 17, 2013 at 3:52 am #

        Seriously just shut up.

      • machiavellisdunny April 17, 2013 at 5:50 am #

        You are retarded. Sadly there is are huge number of people like you sucking at the teat of corporate misinformation and propaganda. What truly amazes me is that even in a country so politically and socially bereft of morals, you qualify to vote!

      • Henry April 17, 2013 at 7:19 am #

        “An eye for an eye and the whole world will be blind” -Ghandi

        few points:
        1. 9/11 nobody can prove who did it. Probably none of the victims above.
        2. Pearl Harbour, you retaliated with Hiroshima (which was untold death and destruction to civilians). The war ended, we forgave. Germany and Japan are peaceful because we forgave.
        3. There will always be militants when you invade. Just turn your imagination to how you’d behave if foreign armies invaded your country, just as your ancestors did to the helpless native Americans.
        4. If you are still unable to understand all of that, do the planet a favour and go and swallow loads of painkillers.

      • Irene Pickering April 17, 2013 at 10:06 am #

        When someone mentions Japan, they are obviously ignorant of history..There is a world of difference between then and now..They attacked us, took our soldiers, and put them in horrific prison camps, beat them, tortured them, and let them die of illnesses. We bombed the hell out of them and they deserved it..Everything is not always merriment and roses..The Japanese and the Germans made big mistakes starting wars and messing with us..Then when everyone got older, and weren’t even around at the time of the war, they bashed this country, again, because they know better, because we killed people. What a joke..I am sick of people saying lets sit down and peaceably talk and come to some agreement. Really, you think that works..Try it..Go over to one of those countries who hate our guts and want us dead, who want to change us all to a different religion, and see how far your negotiations get you..Grow the F*** up..Just as an aside, looking at the Japanese, and German people today is no where near who they were before..We helped them become what they are today. We helped rebuild their countries, we gave them materiel help to bring them to where they are now..Does anyone give kudos to this country for that??? Of course not..Please, if you don’t like it in this country, pack your things and go some where else..You have taken advantage of the right to free speech.

      • Frank April 17, 2013 at 10:56 am #

        You’re an idiot and you have no idea what you’re saying. I’m an American and I love this country that’s why I hate the direction it’s taking. We have become the villains. This country is now being run by the corporate assholes that ruin other countries for there resources. You’re so stupid to think they started this war with 9/11. educate yourself about the history of this country and it’s effect on this world otherwise you’re just a pawn.

      • Dice April 20, 2013 at 12:14 pm #

        Not that I condone any violence, but Pearl Harbour was an attack on soldiers and military vessels that were going to be used to kill. You can’t compare that to the bombs they dropped on Japan. Those soldiers were not innocent, they signed up to kill. On the other hand, there were hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians who died due to these bombs. If you ask me, when i look at history, the US is one of the dirties most ruthless military forces ever, and yes I’m comparing them to both Japan and the Nazis.

      • creepsauce April 21, 2013 at 2:14 pm #

        Total number of casualties from the September 11 Attacks? 2,996.
        The United States had been enforcing slow, violence on the Iraqi people in the form of economic sanctions for 13 years from 1990 to 2003. It’s hard to estimate how many children died from the sanctions in the Iraq, but estimates range between 345,000-530,000. Total civilians killed in the Iraq War? 110,937–121,227.
        Why did we invade Iraq? I recall the words “terror. alquida. weapons of mass destruction” being uttered on fox television for hours. How many weapons of mass destruction were found? Zero

      • chris giles April 28, 2013 at 1:32 am #

        now that is the truth but not many will realise it until maybe its too late. History repeats itself. Look at Cultures. They are different. Some are forward thinking. Some are barbaric and some are a mixture.

      • Smyth June 19, 2013 at 1:24 am #

        You know, the plane attacks on Sept. 11 were a responce to the stuff the US does all around the world. “Terror” is the only way they can respond and strike back. I know you probably bel;ieve that they did it because they “Hate our freedom” but maybe you should try to figure out exactly what that line means? When you do, you may realize that it is in fact meaningless…then you can try to discover the real reason why powerless, disenfranchised, economically downtrodden people strike back.

  4. Greenline April 16, 2013 at 12:44 am #

    The question is not who started, but who’s going to stop it? Because all these wars and violence can’t continue. Aren’t we humans supposed to be the intelligent and civilized specie in world, so how can we allow this to continue happening?

    Who can explain the little boy in the picture, what happened to him?

    • Cyni April 16, 2013 at 3:31 am #

      Yes, thank you.

    • rabiakhan April 16, 2013 at 6:31 am #

      this is north Waziristan Pakistan . the child had been a victim of drone along with the whole family😦. There r hundreds and thousands of such pics which the media is not showing at all cause its been bought by USA.

      • jenny April 16, 2013 at 1:30 pm #

        How many has the talaban killed??? huh

      • Dan April 16, 2013 at 3:40 pm #

        The Taliban? You mean the group that we funded, trained, created, and then got all pissy about when they turned on us? So long as they killed Russians, it was okay, Oops, they turned on us. I hate it when that happens (and it seems to happen all too often).

      • Edd April 16, 2013 at 2:26 pm #

        do you see anyone defending talibans here? and do you know what a Taliban is?

      • Brain Griffen April 16, 2013 at 3:57 pm #

        @Jenny. That is a very good question. Since the Taliban have no air force, no navy, no tanks, no helicopters, no drones, no laser guide bombs or missiles or any sophisticated weapons etc, I think not many, compare to.. say…. the US, if we are comparing numbers of civilians killed.

      • Waldo Culpepper April 23, 2013 at 3:22 am #

        Uh, try the U.S. govt. Not the U.S. citizens. MOST of us want the U.S. out of the U.N. and out of other countries business. I cant control my govt. any more than you can control yours. I wish they would ignore ALL other nations.

    • jaxon April 16, 2013 at 8:57 am #

      Intelligent? Hardly. We are a species who are used to being spoon-fed every bit of information by the media. A species who would prefer to spend millions on music downloads so that some douchebag rapper can have a swimming pool made of gold instead of using this money to provide drinking water to communities in need. Why? Because this douchebag rapper appears in the media about 100,000 times more often than drought stricken communities

      The people who run this world (ie. Governments) have long been aware of our gullibility and have always controlled the masses through the media, filtering information so that we would believe what they want us to believe, and support what they want us to support.

      Intelligent we are not. Zombies more like.

      • Parveen April 16, 2013 at 12:00 pm #

        You are right, we are ruthless people live in a cocoon and feel save and happy and not caring what is happening around us??

      • Vusi April 16, 2013 at 1:49 pm #

        The banking elite are the ones who rule, politicians are the smoke screen, the puppet theatre; they get their orders from the banking oligarchy. The ones who control the wealth are the ones who govern, politicians are just their dogs.

      • GiRRL_Earth April 16, 2013 at 3:54 pm #

        Well said!

      • Sanjana April 16, 2013 at 9:57 pm #

        Well put. I am sick of hearing about all the celebrities. Except when they are reaching out to help others. We need to do more to help our human brother and sisters and stop all this back lashing. I am sick of the wars and the children and adults that are killed. My heart breaks every day for the souls that are destroyed because of hate, greed and ego.

      • Tom April 16, 2013 at 10:40 pm #

        The USA trained Osama….the USA empowered Saddam Hussein…the US knew about Pearl Harbor……the list goes on and on. The USA is a war machine, we are not into peace. Peace does not sell weapons. Peace does not drive the economy. If there was peace, this country would be in economic shambles especially if big oil was gone.

        Think with an open mind and with empathy. If another country sent drones into US soil….dropped bombs or missiles on innocent people including children….what would we call them? TERRORISTS!

        What are we…………

    • chris giles April 28, 2013 at 1:36 am #

      think about it, those who have little intelligence tend to suffer from fear and insecurity, that in turn causes violence. Most intelligent people want peace and little few intelligent people manipulate the dumb for their own ends. this will never change. we are not equal as intelligence levels prove that. we now live with a new form of facism – political correctness. Orwell would be turning in his grave if he knew that certain cultures are implimenting control over thought.

  5. Greenline April 16, 2013 at 12:47 am #

    …and to the eight year old who died today?

    • Conspiracy2Riot April 16, 2013 at 4:46 am #

      sad as it is, that 8 year old probably never knew the horrors of loss some of these other kids experienced before they were killed. he probably never had an empty stomach, was privvy to what most 8 yr old americans had in his short lifetime. being an american doesn’t make you fucking special, and yet, it kind of does. so his 8 years trump the other kids on this list if you wanna view it like that.

      • Irene Pickering April 17, 2013 at 10:10 am #

        So it’s OK that he’s dead..What is wrong with you..Tell that shit to his parents..

    • Peace April 16, 2013 at 7:06 am #

      oh believe me there has been way more 2 year old kids killed from “smart” bombs. Peace.

      • Peace April 16, 2013 at 7:28 am #

        and by the way, a kid is a kid even if it is 2 or 10 or 15 years old. not even 1 should be into this.

    • Anton Louw April 16, 2013 at 8:38 am #

      Its a Yank – who cares?

      • jenny April 16, 2013 at 1:32 pm #

        Your an Idioit..

      • JLenin April 16, 2013 at 3:43 pm #

        You’re * Way to show your ethos Jenny.

  6. Janet April 16, 2013 at 1:36 am #

    Send healing send love send healing send love

  7. Dawood April 16, 2013 at 1:50 am #

    Good point – an innocent murdered anywhere is equally reprehensible. I’d just like to point out that the image of the dead child on this page isn’t from Pakistan/Afghanistan/Yemen – it is from Lebanon.

    • Edd April 16, 2013 at 2:34 pm #

      guess who sold the bombs to Israel

    • Urpo Taskinen May 6, 2013 at 10:12 pm #

      Yes, the photo on this page is from at least 2009. You can see the image here http://gaza-filistine.skyrock.com/
      … and don´t look – there are unfortunately more dead children there.

      War is terrible! Terrorism is terrible! Killing human beings is terrible!

      I can only say that in a way the tone of discussion here is sometimes filled with lot of anger and hard words. Doesn´t peace and understanding start from a point where we respect each other as human beings?

      I can also see that most of people here are writing with signatures, not their own names. Is this due to fear?
      I learnt that almost everything that people do, they do for two reasons; love or fear.

      Killing other human beings, could that ever, ever be counted as something done with love? Well, if you want you can always create pseudo-answers for that, but killing a child, for what ever reason I can´t imagine would be done by love.

  8. CHRISTINA CHO April 16, 2013 at 2:03 am #

    HELL ON EARTH.😦

  9. Canadian Jumper April 16, 2013 at 2:04 am #

    You hippies are insane. Don’t use dead children as your soap box prop you shallow, shallow fools.

    • Dan April 16, 2013 at 12:41 pm #

      So how do you define depth?

    • zTim April 16, 2013 at 3:39 pm #

      we tried using the soap from out of the box, but it didn’t have quite the same level of impact…..
      In other words what would you suggest? Pictures of fluffy kittens looking cute?
      Oh and for the record, I have short hair, wear a shirt and tie & eat meat…

    • Sausages April 17, 2013 at 1:02 am #

      Mind if I edit that? Here it goes:

      Don’t use dead children as your soap box prop.

  10. Andrew April 16, 2013 at 3:08 am #

    I think it is incredibly sloppy and disingenuous to call America’s acts terrorism. Incompetent, yes. Overly aggressive, sure. But terrorism? Absolutely not. You can certainly argue that the drones shouldn’t be there if they cause this much collateral damage, and that it shows a lack of compassion on their part to carelessly put them there because its easier, even though they can kill innocents. You can make an argument that the entire war was careless. Sure. But no matter HOW many innocent people are killed due to collateral damage in America’s war effort, you should NEVER compare it to the acts of these terrorists. Ask yourself this, if both sides had perfect weapons, that could kill any person in any location on Earth and hit them every time, with no unintended collateral damage, who would have died in each situation? If the Obama administration had these weapons, can you seriously argue for even a second that even one innocent child would have been killed by it? Now, on the other hand, give this weapon to the people who committed these acts, or committed the acts on 9/11. Based solely on what these kinds of extremist groups have openly said and proudly admit, quite possibly every single man, woman and child in each of these cities would have been slaughtered.

    To compare the two like this – “well hey, a bunch of people died here and it was sure terrible, and a bunch of people died here and that sure was terrible… therefore, they are both done by terrorists!” is so reductive and completely overlooks the intended outcome of each party.

    • cloudied April 16, 2013 at 11:54 am #

      So basically what you’re saying is “only brown people can be terrorists! Not us!!!”. Drone strikes ARE an act of terrorism. They spread terror among the people who are affected by them. There are hundreds of children who aren’t going to school because they’re scared of being blown up by American missiles. And yes, the entire “War on Terror” is a giant terrorist campaign, and American veterans themselves have admitted to this. Google Mike Prysner and then get back to me, bye.

      • Waldo Culpepper April 23, 2013 at 3:08 am #

        Hey Stooge, the U.S. is almost as brown as it is white… And if ANY COLOR of people threatens my friends ONLY because of their religion, then ANYTHING goes. And that includes my govt. or ANY govt. and ANY of their people who feel they have the right to control someone else’s religion. ITS NO ONES business what religion ANYONE else is. END OF STORY.

    • dsaasfas April 16, 2013 at 11:58 am #

      Ken:
      unlawful killing is an atrocity no matter the victims status, religion or skin colour!!! can’t believe there are people on here comparing the life styles of child victims like it’s some kind of card game!! an 8 year old child is an 8 year old child, innocent and unable to have a say in his/her presence in the line of fire of disillusioned idiots who believe they have the right to kill for their “cause” (idiots meaning any one who involves themselves in terrorism, be it guerillas, rebels, government officials, presidents, prime-ministers, company execs, military generals, monkeys, cockroaches and maggots!).
      Terrorism is perpetuated by both sides of any conflict, and the cycle of hate will only end when enough of us can transcend beyond it and seek the good in humanity, which still exists somewhere underneath the rubble of vengeance.
      Peace

    • Parveen April 16, 2013 at 12:06 pm #

      My question is if neucaler bomb is so dangerous, guns and other weapons are so unreliable cant a simple intelligent person think on those lines instead of making money out of it on the blood of your own human being and then blame the big “TERRORIST”??????

    • arsumbris April 16, 2013 at 12:16 pm #

      Sherman’s March to the sea? The fire bombings of Tokyo, or the phosphorus used in Dresden?

      War is (and always has been) a science of applied terrorism. I’m not sure why that perspective makes people so squeamish, except that it has something to do with the modern concept of terrorism being associated with against civilians being made a cultural/legal taboo. Ironically, it’s taboo because of the same cultural dichotomy of morally separating combatants from “non-combatants”, saying that war on civilians is terrorism and “wrong”… but at what point in history has such a distinction ever proved feasibly absolute? Every conquered nation in human history is sacked, pillaged, raped, enslaved. That is and always has been the nature of capitulation in war.

      War is terror, and vice versa; in war, you terrorize the enemy population into submission. If that requires defeating their armies first, so be it, but if it requires defeating their civilians first — when has that ever stopped a nation from conducting war, especial one with a modern military facing a guerrilla opponent that blends in with civilians?

      What America does abroad is terrorism, but it is also war. If America claims it must be at war, if it has sound reasons for it, what honor is there in trying to deny what it does?

      If you must do war, accept the nature of what you’re doing; it’s nonsense splitting hairs. If you can’t accept it, end the war.

    • Dan April 16, 2013 at 12:45 pm #

      The FBI defines terrorism as “”the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives.”

      Okay, interesting. But take out one adjective so that the definition is universally applicable and you get “the . . . use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives.”

      By this standard, the US is the single biggest terrorist organization on the planet. Hell, leave in “lawful” because one country’s “law” is another’s illegal invasion.

    • michelle kenny April 16, 2013 at 1:31 pm #

      america and britain are the two most evil countries this world has ever seen they are vile psychopathic monsters and there insane acts and terror knows no limits

    • Vusi April 16, 2013 at 2:08 pm #

      It’s amazing how America always meddles in the affairs of other nations, liberating here and there. You did a darn good job liberating the ‘American Indians’ with beer and reservations; thanks for liberating Africans by taking them from the squalor of the jungle into your plantations; well done for your failure in Vietnam and Somalia, Iraq there are too many places you have liberated too many enemies you’ve made.

      Beware for while you liberate the outside world your own people are increasingly blindsiding you, Oklahoma bombings, slaughtering innocent children in schools, I don’t have to list them all you know your country well enough. Go on liberating while you implode. Oh yes and how do you clean your conscience, you give those savages MTV and reality TV shows, excellent. You’re damn good cause it works all the time.

      Watch as more civil liberties are taken from you and you are given vampire movies and pregnant teen shows. The American Dream.

      • Vusi April 16, 2013 at 2:10 pm #

        My second comment is addressed to Andrew.

    • zTim April 16, 2013 at 3:40 pm #

      you’re right, Im quite sure that these innocents didn’t have time to feel any real terror as bombs rained down on their heads….

    • Brain Griffen April 16, 2013 at 4:09 pm #

      You’re absolutely right Andrew. It should be called American imperialism. Just as worse. Or is that sloppy and disingenuous?

  11. Ghazayel April 16, 2013 at 4:14 am #

    one thing also to add, is that the picture used in the article is taken during the Israely war on Lebanon in june 2006. where US bombs where used widely

    • Vusi April 16, 2013 at 2:55 pm #

      That’s a common thing the media does.

  12. Muhammad April 16, 2013 at 4:40 am #

    Please Americans answer these questions ?
    What about the crimes being committed by your government on the other side of the world ?
    – Crimes against innocent people in Pakistan , Afghanistan , Somalia, Yemen by American drones .
    – Horrible crimes being committed in Syria by American plots against innocent people ?
    – Car bombings throughout Iraq by American agents ?
    – Sanctions against Iranian people who kicked out Shah ( the American puppet) and wanted their own democracy ?
    – Chaos in Egypt for two years to weaken the country against its enemy ?
    – Threatening N Korea with crushing retaliation. Supporting the Israeli criminals with billions of US tax payer dollars. Updating its nuclear arsenal day by day ?
    And a long history of crimes in every part of the world like Vietnam , Cambodia, and……….
    Just imagine if you were one of the citizens of these countries , how would you feel ?

    • Anton Louw April 16, 2013 at 11:57 am #

      I hear you sir!
      The USA is a terrible disease…

      • jenny April 16, 2013 at 1:34 pm #

        Patheic excuse for a person .. good ridence to u

      • random earthling April 16, 2013 at 9:32 pm #

        *Pathetic. and *Riddance.Try using spellcheck

    • Dan April 16, 2013 at 12:47 pm #

      Dear Muhammad, many of us in the US ask the same questions. May people of peace no matter the accident of the locale of their birth work together.

    • K. Waltz April 16, 2013 at 2:50 pm #

      We are citizens of a country being attacked. America! If people don’t like it here, why do they keep coming here. Lest we forget 9/11? That was an inexcusable and horrific attack on innocent people, women, children, men…….What is the excuse for that? America has a right to protect their allies and out own citizens. And that was the second attack on the Twin Towers. Funny how every time a foreign country has a disaster, the first place they come is the UNITED STATES.

      • zTim April 16, 2013 at 3:46 pm #

        NO they don’t K Waltz. I don’t want the US style of assistance, now , in the past in or in the future.

        Have you failed to make the connection? Just why has the US become a target within its own borders? Simply because you took yourself beyond them and into others. Frankly I was more surprised that its took so long before other people got organised enough to take the fight back to you.

        Thats why my country took the very wise step 20 years ago to tell your govt that your weapons of war were not welcome in our waters.

        You reap what you sow.

      • msc777 April 16, 2013 at 4:13 pm #

        i don’t think america will ever let anyone forget about fucking ‘9/11’, it’ll be an excuse for pre-emptive attack for centuries to come. Get over yourself no countries are attacking america, stop picking up isolated incidents and using them as an excuse for going to war with whole nations of people. There is a difference between, protecting your country and it’s citizens, and attacking countries you don’t like because you say they are ‘out to get you’. Your last line is just delusional, there are plenty of times when the usa aren’t involved or contacted and yet they seem to turn up anyway in humvees and gunships under the self-appointed title of ‘worlds hero’

    • Jennifer April 17, 2013 at 4:39 am #

      it goes like this, economic hitman… if that doesn’t work they send in the jackal and if that doesn’t work… the military

    • Waldo Culpepper April 23, 2013 at 3:03 am #

      I would feel like changing U.S. policy to leave EVERYONE else in EVERY other country to their own devices, that INCLUDES giving ANY money to other countries or other governments. Unfortunately, none of the killed or injured in Boston have any control on U.S. foreign policy, thus invalidating the attack and making it terrorism. Not rocket science folks.

  13. Muhammad Harun Riedinger April 16, 2013 at 5:31 am #

    On top of it they give you ‘democracy’ as a mandatory creed so that you have the constitutional right to feel guilty for ‘having done nothing’ to stop their rampage …

  14. Monalisa Tabernilla April 16, 2013 at 5:31 am #

    Each life is precious, no matter the age. We must not allow either…

    • Greenline April 16, 2013 at 10:22 am #

      I agree, every life no matter where, it is worth to save and crimes shouldn’t happen against anyone in the world.

  15. steven spink April 16, 2013 at 5:34 am #

    Humans make me sick!
    Religion has always enjoyed it’s martyrs in the name of some slight or another!
    Grow a brain, think for yourselves and treat others how you wish to be treated!

  16. Ramborai April 16, 2013 at 5:53 am #

    Question to ponder is, what were the circumstances when these children in the Middle East were killed? Were they (1) being used as human shields? Were they in the wrong place at the wrong time when the drones were attacking? (2) Were they mistakenly targeted or fired upon? Or (3) were they deliberately targeted?

    Chances are, it’s most likely (1) or (2). I seriously doubt the US has any intentions of deliberately killing civilians, let alone children. The use of human shields is well known among terror organizations. The attacks in Boston were DELIBERATELY targeted at civilian i.e. mass gathering of people for an event. It’s easy to highlight numbers, but it’s equally important to look at the context of these casualties.

    No one likes war, no one likes killing. But the truth is – there are guys out there who just won’t stop until they everyone that opposes them is dead or subjugated. War is a necessary evil to protect the liberties we hold dear, like it or not. Unfortunately civilians are often caught up in the fighting too, and while all efforts should be made to limit civilian deaths, they are almost inevitable.

    • Frank April 16, 2013 at 12:05 pm #

      The wrong place at the wrong time! They were in their own country, being attacked by american terrorists. You say no one likes war, then why does america start wars? In my 60 years, america has attacked so many countries.The ”liberties” you hold so dear need the natural resources others own, so you are prepared to murder to get your your needs. Shame on you

      • God Bless America April 16, 2013 at 2:57 pm #

        What was the United States expected to do when terrorists flew into out twin towers? Flew into the Pentegon? Killed innocent children, women, men, people who have nothing to do with the government’s/presidents decisions. So we should have just sat back and not retaliated? Someone has to protect Israel, no one else is. Like I stated earlier, people flock to the United States, land of the free….. But they want to kill us because they hate us. If they hate us, they should go home! Then on the other hand, when a disaster strikes their homelands, they come running to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA with their hands held out!
        War is war, Read your Bible, there is much worse to come. Killing innocents at a marathon race, children mind you! Senseless, I don’t care if the people who did it were domestic or foreign, it is terrorism, it terrorized out whole country!

    • Love & Peace April 16, 2013 at 12:37 pm #

      I agree. They are most likely used as shields, it’s sad.

    • Dan April 16, 2013 at 12:51 pm #

      No one likes war? No one likes killing? Really? One man’s innocent victim is another’s collateral damage. War is a necessary evil? Dear god, how can you say such things? Those on the other side will say exactly the same thing of “our” loss. It is necessary to stop the evil empire. And the beat goes on. We kill them because they kill us because we kill them because they kill us, because . . . . . Your acceptance of necessary evil is detestable.

    • Melisa April 16, 2013 at 12:54 pm #

      Ramborai, this: “But the truth is – there are guys out there who just won’t stop until they everyone that opposes them is dead or subjugated.” is entirely true, the USA are those guys you are referring to. Throughout history the USA has intervened, meddled or obliterated any opposition to your way of thinking, economy, ideology or any other factor that could threaten your dominating status in the world. In Southamerica, every military government (the ones who killed millons) has been sponsored or helped by the USA. Stop twisting facts to ft you small minded country. It was always the USA, always the ones who stomp on everybody else.
      You wonder why the world hate you? That’s why, they either hate you or fear you, and both feelings are inspired by your previous violence and they inspire violence.

    • mark April 16, 2013 at 1:21 pm #

      I agree with you. The only reason terrorists and other enemies aren’t slaughtering Americans is because they don’t have the wide capability of reaching the United States. Security is tight. Did any of these other countries give a crap when planes flew into the world trade centers and killed thousands of civillians? no. Has there ever really been peace in the history of this world? no. Will there ever be peace in the history of the world? guess that depends on your beliefs. Do I like war? no. Do any of you like Americans? no, how many Americans do you really know? probably very few if any. Have you countries really brought anything very good into the world either? Not really. Just saying.

      • Dan April 16, 2013 at 3:36 pm #

        Yes in fact other countries did “give a crap” when planes flew into the WTC. It was only after we started randomly attacking those not involved that much of the world turned. We had deep sympathy and we blew it. And if giving a crap is the basic standard,m then why don’t we give the rest of the world the same concern?

      • zTim April 16, 2013 at 3:50 pm #

        I have no issue with American people, I have huge problems with US administration policy towards others &the way they allow their own people to be brain washed by their propaganda.

      • Brain Griffen April 16, 2013 at 4:33 pm #

        Oh wow. We gave the world Apple iPhones. I feel really proud. (sarcastically)

    • Sunnah April 16, 2013 at 4:09 pm #

      In Iraq, American soldiers killed for fun, why should we belevie this is any diffrent?

    • Brain Griffen April 16, 2013 at 5:37 pm #

      @ Ramborai. That’s problem. “NON DELIBERATE” deaths (collateral) far out number “DELIBERATE” deaths (terrorism).
      Are we to say that the 3000 victims of 9/11 are worth more then 200,000+ Iraqis, Afghans, Pakistanis, Yemenis victims etc?

      How much more “NON DELIBERATE” deaths will it take for you to start questioning whether war is a necessary evil and that this isn’t a fight for our liberties, (if indeed your definition of ‘liberties’ just happens to be being able to fuel your car cheaply, answer your iphone and log on to your bank to see if your investment is doing well etc?

      I think it’s a pathetic excuse to label these deaths as NON DELIBERATE targets. By doing so you give whatever agenda our leaders have, justification to do whatever they like so you as a civilian don’t have to feel guilty about the deaths occurred, all this so you can drive your car every morning to work. Pathetic.

    • Jacqui April 16, 2013 at 8:54 pm #

      Ramborai you are delusional! You may ‘seriously doubt’ anything you like – collateral damage is not a justification for killing innocent people.

      And let’s not forget that there is as yet no proof that the Boston bombings were perpetrated by Muslims, Al Qaeda or any other non-Americans. For all you know this hideous activity may well have been organised by one or more of your own mentally-deranged countrymen.

    • Irene Pickering April 17, 2013 at 10:17 am #

      It is known that they have gathered people together and put their own people in harms way, knowing they would be killed..

  17. PA April 16, 2013 at 6:04 am #

    Murder is always a crime, the murder of children is the most heinous of crimes http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=3439749105115168976#editor/target=post;postID=778198029601861876

  18. PA April 16, 2013 at 6:30 am #

    Murder is always a crime, and the murder of children is the most heinous of crimes.http://peoplesassemblyofjustice.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/correct-action-and-moral-fortitude-and.html

  19. Akshay Vajapeyam April 16, 2013 at 6:51 am #

    I’m going to take this list at face value and commend you on exposing this. This information needs to be out there. I’m keeping it bookmarked and looking for further developments.
    However, I came to view this post because your title gave the impression of a balanced view. Which hasn’t happened.
    I am in NO WAY stating that the actions of the US are not condemnable.
    But where’s the other list? The list of children killed in terrorist attacks? Aren’t their lives worth mourning? Come on, man. Balance. With balance you can point toward a resolution. This is just arguing. Intelligent and important arguing but just arguing. It tells only half the story. This is not an emotional consideration, but a fact. Half a story is as good as no story.

    Also, “To murder 175 children using military drones is U.S. policy.”? Seriously? Do you seriously think people in the Pentagon are actually sitting there going, “Yes, lets bomb some children today”? Even THEY aren’t that stupid.

    As a neutral, I am very interested in hearing out workable resolutions toward establishing democratic society, whichever side the may come from. I don’t want to watch people scream hyperbole at each other.

    • Holly April 16, 2013 at 9:03 pm #

      This. Sums up my thoughts perfectly!

    • Brian Griffen April 17, 2013 at 3:38 am #

      @Akshay Vajapeyam. Don’t patronize us. We know that US policy do not deliberately target civilians (though the Vietnam War was an exception). The problem is, deaths occurred through collateral damage has far outnumbered deaths occurred deliberately and for what? Are we to accept that collateral deaths is inevitable as part of our defense strategy against terrorists? Is that why we are here? Is that why we have the largest defense budget than any other country and have amassed the largest and most sophisticated military force ever with the most sophisticated weapons of mass destruction ever developed, built the most military bases around the world than any other country as well as built a very highly organised intelligent organization, capable of over throwing elected governments? Sounds to me like an offensive invasion force capable of more collateral deaths. But that’s OK as long as our leaders reassure us that US policy does not deliberately target civilians. That makes it alright. That way you can sleep well in your beds tonight and continue justifying our use of violence without feeling guilty about the large number of “COLLATERAL” deaths occurred as a result of US terrorism. Oops. Sorry. (Freudian slip) Foreign policy or whatever you call it.

    • sherry awan April 23, 2013 at 5:06 pm #

      Yes they are intensionally murdering Kids

  20. Stev the Free one April 16, 2013 at 7:04 am #

    175 + 1
    inside job everybody…
    passenger liner LUSITANIA in 1915
    Pearl Harbour
    faked sinking of american vessel outside north korea’s coast
    faked embassy bombing
    chemical weapons in Q8
    weapons of mass destruction Iraq
    9/11 biggest looser to Afghanistan

    what’s next?!

    • Irene Pickering April 17, 2013 at 10:20 am #

      And your prove of all this is what…????

      • Kaitlin April 19, 2013 at 1:39 pm #

        “War is a Lie” by David Swanson. He says something about most of those things. He sites government documents that have since been de-classified as his sources for the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor and North Korea (also Vietnam). I’m sure we’ll find out about what our government was really doing with the others when their documents become de-classified, but like now, everyone will be too caught up in current events to realize we have proof of criminal acts commited by our leaders.

  21. Farah abu JABER April 16, 2013 at 7:17 am #

    Love ur Nighbor as ur self ,
    God is love

  22. eDan April 16, 2013 at 7:33 am #

    To compare the two in such a simplistic way at this point in time is both inaccurate and inappropriate. An open and honest discussion about U.S. drone policy would be welcome, but not this way. This is pure exploitation of a tragedy for political gain, and it is not appreciated.

    • Jober Drama April 16, 2013 at 5:55 pm #

      By a non political organisation? Just fuelling the fire.

    • Kaitlin April 19, 2013 at 1:47 pm #

      Actually, it’s just to start a discussion on the morality of the current state of world affairs,the role the U.S. plays, and the dichotomy of our reaction to our own victimization vs. what we cause in other parts of the world.

  23. soundaroundlondon April 16, 2013 at 8:29 am #

    very sad

  24. Richard Paine April 16, 2013 at 8:30 am #

    Agree with all posts here.

  25. kylie April 16, 2013 at 8:38 am #

    this is so bad but money is taking over the world people from all contrys need to unite and strike or protest as facebook and social networks are just highlighting the terror in the world.amen

  26. kylie April 16, 2013 at 8:40 am #

    I wish we could stop these poor babys from being killed its a wicked wicked world we live in

  27. Marcus Wombat April 16, 2013 at 8:52 am #

    Hey, don’t you realize that this information actually came from a hollywood movie? Its not real. How dumb and brainwashed are some people.

  28. linda opperman April 16, 2013 at 8:54 am #

    Harvest what you sow

    • Ashley Harvey April 16, 2013 at 10:36 am #

      I’m sorry but what exactly did those innocent children sow?

      • xicodex April 16, 2013 at 12:36 pm #

        ask million innocent ppl frm hiroshima and nagasaki, wt did they sow ?

      • zTim April 16, 2013 at 3:52 pm #

        The USA are reaping what they sow….

  29. Alexandre April 16, 2013 at 9:26 am #

    Dont mixte the truth thinks, it the terroriste used shcool or children to make horror… go to there to see how people live… nd how are happy to see american try to make down this horrible pilitic down on this country… Yemen… where women can’t talk… and u have no futur… just religious thing…u are so naive to compar.

  30. Mary Lou April 16, 2013 at 9:33 am #

    What a crock to put the blame on President Obama for the war that Bush started and kept going. Obama is trying to wind things down, but just remember…he is only a figurehead…he doesn’t act on his own..and is advised and directed by many others. It’s not a ‘one man’ band. Don’t use your paper to push your own opinions and agenda, especially when it’s BS!!

    • Jober Drama April 16, 2013 at 5:58 pm #

      You just contradicted yourself by saying it’s not a one man show but Bush started the war!!! All by himself was it?

    • Irene Pickering April 17, 2013 at 10:22 am #

      Right..Some people can’t see the forest for the trees..

  31. s. April 16, 2013 at 9:41 am #

    you could at least NAME also the victims of boston, if its so important for you to give injustice a name. everything else is double standard thinking. but dont make yourself too much work, this comparison is disgusting anyway. care about earth and climate stuff as usual, and not about politics as you pretend to be so grateful and emphatic..

  32. Lyndsay April 16, 2013 at 9:45 am #

    What is happening? and again, will start a blaming game.

  33. Virpi L. (@virpye) April 16, 2013 at 10:16 am #

    I think you’re completely right, but this text needs a little more info to be credible. What is the timespan we’re talking about? Without it, there murders could add up from 2008 when Obama became president. And for that the numbers are just too small.

    • Edd April 16, 2013 at 2:27 pm #

      and what difference would that make in this case? would it make any difference to you if your child was killed by a bomb while playing in the backyard in 2008 or 2012?

  34. Hare Krsna April 16, 2013 at 10:25 am #

    Just what is the Bhagavad-gita? The purpose of Bhagavad-gita is to deliver mankind from the nescience of material existence. Every man is in difficulty in so many ways, as Arjuna also was in difficulty in having to fight the Battle of Kuruksetra. Arjuna surrendered unto Sri Krsna, and consequently this Bhagavad-gita was spoken. Not only Arjuna, but every one of us is full of anxieties because of this material existence. Our very existence is in the atmosphere of nonexistence. Actually we are not meant to be threatened by nonexistence. Our existence is eternal. But somehow or other we are put into asat. Asat refers to that which does not exist.

    Read the Bhagavad-Gita online for free here:
    http://asitis.com/

    How to read this book?
    First read the Introduction, then start on Chapter 1, read through all the verses, then on to Chapter 2, and so on, until you finish all 18 chapters.

    If you have any questions about the Bhagavad-Gita while you are reading it, if there is some part that you don’t understand, feel free to email me and I’ll try my best to answer your questions.

    bhagavadgitaquestions@outlook.com

    And in case you are not the philosophical type, a person who likes to read philosophy, then just try chanting the following mantra for just 15 minutes a day and see what the effect of it is in your personal life.

    Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare
    Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare

    In the end, what do you have to lose?

    • Irene Pickering April 17, 2013 at 10:24 am #

      And the brain washing continues..

  35. Rosa April 16, 2013 at 10:29 am #

    THIS IS PURE PROPAGANDA!!!

    One can’t say that
    “what happened in Boston is “less worse” than elsewhere. ”
    EVERY TERRORIST ACT IS UNACCEPTABLE
    regardless of the outcome, the number of deaths / injuries

    Each terrorist act (anywhere on Earth) is:
    shameful, inhuman there are no words to describe how disgusting it is

  36. Greenline April 16, 2013 at 10:31 am #

    No one, in any country, should excuse their own criminal acts by saying that someone else also does it.

    It is time to grow up and take responsibility of our own actions.

    If we Human Beings are as smart as we say we are, then we should be able to find a different way to solve conflict rather than killing innocents in any country.

    If every culture and religion does not find a way to treat each other with respect, then we should not say we have evolved at all. We are proving to act the same as other animal species who react with violence rather than intelligence.

    • djdm April 16, 2013 at 2:03 pm #

      Yes

  37. hannahrwinsten April 16, 2013 at 10:49 am #

    This is great, simple and to the point. The perfect way to shed light on the horror of U.S. policy in the Middle East.

  38. Stewart Vriesinga April 16, 2013 at 10:57 am #

    Let this be an opportunity to bring all victims of all forms of terrorism together in solidarity against violence and the slaying of innocents. It is NEVER justified, regardless of whom the victims are or whom the perpetrator is.

  39. justaform April 16, 2013 at 11:01 am #

    is there a source for this?

  40. Stolo April 16, 2013 at 11:04 am #

    obviously no one likes dead children, but is targeting innocent civilians watching a marathon right in front of television cameras the same as targeting terrorist leaders? especially when you get permission from the countries stated above? maybe these terrorist leaders shouldn’t hide around the innocent…maybe you should write an article that’s targeted at them…the terrorist leaders. do these numbers factor in how many lives may have been saved by preventing terrorist attacks?

    • Frank April 16, 2013 at 12:50 pm #

      You don’t appear to know what a terrorist is., you must be american. Your country perpetrates terrorism all the time, so a terrorist leader is, according to you, Obama and the other militants of your country. If you want to save lives, keep your gun-men in your own country.

      • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 1:33 pm #

        please explain how killing innocent people at a marathon counters US “terrorism”?? let me tell you how we counter REAL terrorism…we target and KILL the terrorist leaders!!! and with the approval from those countries, no less. how many attacks has that avoided?? how many lives has that saved?

    • stevo April 16, 2013 at 1:14 pm #

      One has to be very clear here about what a terrorist is.In most countries the distinction between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is simply a question of perspective,what happened in Boston was a tragedy and an outrage and it has dominated the western media for two days now.Now change your perspective and think how you would feel if these attacks took place in your own country with much more regularity and far,far more casualties.would you not feel that people value you less if it got so little press attention?And a further point where will we all stand if it emerges that an American,domestic group is found to be responsible?

      • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 1:28 pm #

        terrorism is attacking the innocent. despite civilian casualties, civilians are not our targets — terrorist leaders are. we are not trying to make a statement, get television press, generate fear and then brag about death in youtube videos. HUGE distinction there. everyone should think about that.

    • Kaitlin April 19, 2013 at 1:58 pm #

      There is no need to condemn the terrorist leaders here, everyone already knows that they commit horrendous acts. This is to point out to Americans who deny that what we do, accepting the deaths of children as “collateral damage”, is actually just as terrible in it’s own way.

  41. Ken Masters April 16, 2013 at 11:09 am #

    unlawful killing is an atrocity no matter the victims status, religion or skin colour!!! can’t believe there are people on here comparing the life styles of child victims like it’s some kind of card game!! an 8 year old child is an 8 year old child, innocent and unable to have a say in his/her presence in the line of fire of disillusioned idiots who believe they have the right to kill for their “cause” (idiots meaning any one who involves themselves in terrorism, be it guerillas, rebels, government officials, presidents, prime-ministers, company execs, military generals, monkeys, cockroaches and maggots!).
    Terrorism is perpetuated by both sides of any conflict, and the cycle of hate will only end when enough of us can transcend beyond it and seek the good in humanity, which still exists somewhere underneath the rubble of vengeance.
    Peace

    • Rabya April 16, 2013 at 11:40 am #

      really well said!

    • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 1:29 pm #

      unlawful?? the US has permission from all of these countries. they want to get rid of terrorists as much as we do. do your homework before posting comments like this.

      • Dan April 16, 2013 at 3:31 pm #

        I’ve done my homework. All of this violates international human right standards. So, let’s even say it’s “lawful,” does that make it right to kill innocents?If so, then the attacks on the US are equally justified. Of course I think none of this is justified. You can’t have it both ways. Either all nations have a right to kill or none do. Just because we’re the empire de jure, does not give us the right. Remember, “right of conquest” seems to be the standard, thus if we can be conquered, then those conquerors have the right.

      • zTim April 16, 2013 at 3:57 pm #

        Ok, done some research- and no matter how you paint it- Illegal and Immoral…..

        Ever read Shylock & The Bond?
        You may take your payment in blood, but not one jot of flesh may you take.

      • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 5:46 pm #

        dan, how many terrorist attacks do you think the US military has prevented? 0? how many lives do you think were saved? 0?

      • 23rdavud April 20, 2013 at 8:32 am #

        So it was “lawful” when the British (The world dominant hegemonic power of the time) were killing American Patriots (or insurgent terrorists according to British law) during the insurrection carried out in Britains American colonies? When the “Sons of Liberty” commited acts of violence against the British this was clearly “unlawful” terrorism, by the legal standard of the time. The children who served in The Continental Army where therefore legitimate targets.

  42. prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 11:15 am #

    obviously no one likes dead children, but is targeting innocent civilians watching a marathon right in front of television cameras the same as targeting terrorist leaders? especially when you get permission from the countries stated above? maybe these terrorist leaders shouldn’t hide around the innocent…maybe you should write an article that’s targeted at them…the terrorist leaders. do these numbers factor in how many lives may have been saved by preventing terrorist attacks?

  43. ZIgbal April 16, 2013 at 11:36 am #

    Great to see a change in patriotism, aren’t we all made of the same flesh and blood, what makes us different is how and what…..

  44. sharansaikumar April 16, 2013 at 11:53 am #

    Nobody is justifying an eye for an eye but the facts are laid out for you to make your own conclusions. That is the genius of this piece.

  45. Macedonian April 16, 2013 at 11:55 am #

    Are you suggesting that those killed by drones were killed deliberately?

    • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 1:24 pm #

      exactly my point! this is major distinction in what constitutes “terrorism”. accidental vs willful. there’s a HUGE difference there. couldn’t agree with you more.

      • zTim April 16, 2013 at 4:00 pm #

        I quite sure that innocent-and dead- children will be much comforted to know that theres a difference….

      • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 5:43 pm #

        there is a difference. accident vs intention. and still, no one mentions how many lives are saved for killing terrorist leaders and preventing potential future attacks!! factor those numbers in. hundreds, thousands of lives saved? who knows…

      • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 5:45 pm #

        everyone knows drone strikes exist. the terrorist leaders endanger their own people. what does that say?

      • Jober Drama April 16, 2013 at 6:07 pm #

        In a war that was started by America to fulfil energy needs from rich oil fields that the extraction companies did not want to pay fair prices for so they gave them weapons, told the other guy that the other country called them mean names and then sold them weapons and then took their oil!

    • Edd April 16, 2013 at 2:33 pm #

      how exactly can you be sure you only hit enemies if you fire at them from thousands of feet above and through a computer screen? see my point?

      • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 5:50 pm #

        everyone knows drone strikes exist. the terrorist leaders endanger their own people. what does that say?

  46. Gianna April 16, 2013 at 12:26 pm #

    Wow, Anton you are not human, go back to the hell you came from and don’t pollute our airways.

  47. Phillip Gauthier April 16, 2013 at 12:40 pm #

    No it is not the same. A) There is a difference between terrorism (random non-hostile targets) and collateral damage (accidental / human shield deaths near hostile targets). B) many of the children on these lists were hostiles and are in their respective countries are “adults” long before they would be considered over here. C) Non-drone combat has caused civilian deaths in the hundreds of thousands, thus drone attacks when necessary safe the lives of tens of thousands of children. It’s WAR people, not a nursery rhyme.

    • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 1:30 pm #

      agreed!! thank you!

      • Dan April 16, 2013 at 3:32 pm #

        Difference between innocents and collateral damage? Tell it to the dead. By your standard, if someone in Boston were a target, (for all we know, maybe there was a “target”) then the dead child would be okay. Twisted self-righteousness.

      • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 5:39 pm #

        lol, and who’s the target? one of the runners? obama? great argument.

    • zTim April 16, 2013 at 4:01 pm #

      Its a war people of Boston- not a nursery rhyme…

      Hows that work for you?

    • 23rdavud April 20, 2013 at 8:41 am #

      How do you know that the targets at the Boston bombings were innocents? It’s very easy to finish your shift piloting a drone from the comfort of a room in Langley, and then take part in the Bosoton Marathon the next day. Therefore, using your logic, the unfortunate innocents can then merely be construed as collateral damage, thats what happens when you kill during your 9-5 hours in an office using drones and from behind the shield of a human population.

  48. J B April 16, 2013 at 1:04 pm #

    If this is supposed to be journalism it is a very poor attempt, if it is supposed to be informative it is in bad taste.
    Yes both are shocking but to try make people lose sympathy with American civilians because of what the military does is wrong especially so soon after the event.

    To compare the two events is ridiculous and completely unnecessary almost done specifically to be controversial

    • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 1:36 pm #

      agreed! poor taste indeed.

    • zTim April 16, 2013 at 4:04 pm #

      so is it better to post comments in a way that is not controversial?…..

      Kind of defeats the point doesn’t it?

  49. StamMarko April 16, 2013 at 1:04 pm #

    Reblogged this on Τζάμπα_μάγκας..

  50. mytiturk April 16, 2013 at 1:13 pm #

    Reblogged this on mightyturk and commented:
    Not to minimize the heinous, despicable tragedy that occurred in Boston, but to point out senseless suffering all over the globe. None of this can be justified.

    • Greenline April 16, 2013 at 2:45 pm #

      I agree, most of the comments posted in this blog are trying to justify violence cause by each side, but each attack only calls for more attacks, so every time a leader makes a decision on using weapons against someone, why is there a surprise on having a reaction?
      I am not justifying any of that, I am just saying war shouldn’t be perpetuating.

  51. K April 16, 2013 at 1:26 pm #

    It doesn’t matter what we all SAY here.. it matters what we DO. This is unacceptable. If the US is responsible for the lives of all these children, we need to find a way to stand up to the wrong doings of this corrupt covernment. unbelievable. So sad.

    • prestoktd April 16, 2013 at 1:35 pm #

      blame the terrorist leaders for hiding among civilians. this article should be targeted at them. they are essentially walking around with a red dot on their back.

      • zTim April 16, 2013 at 4:05 pm #

        you’re right, they should hang out in huge big buildings that are closed to the general public- like the White House?

  52. tebsy April 16, 2013 at 1:38 pm #

    Reblogged this on tebsypaul and commented:
    #truth.

  53. Monkey April 16, 2013 at 1:50 pm #

    The American comments on this are ridiculous. Just admit that you are not the only country who has suffered tragedy. Just admit that you have inflicted tragedy on other countries too. Just admit it. It’s not that hard.

  54. Earth First! Journal Cascadia Office April 16, 2013 at 2:01 pm #

    While we’re blaming “terrorist leaders”, maybe we should recognize that the US supports “terrorist” groups all over the world. Look at the Syrian “opposition”. Look at the Mujahedin, who morphed into Al Qaeda. Look at the World Muslim League, which carries militant Salafism throughout the world, and is responsible for channeling funds into myriad violent Islamist groups. Then look at the groups the US considers “terrorists”, such as food and humanitarian groups in Palestine, peaceful activists in the US, and so on.

    • hoper333 April 16, 2013 at 2:51 pm #

      Exactly!

    • zTim April 16, 2013 at 4:07 pm #

      I recall going into a Bar in Boston 15 years ago and seeing a donation jar on the counter top…..collecting for the IRA…..ironic much?

  55. Kris April 16, 2013 at 2:05 pm #

    People who rationalize this way are the reason there are so many uninformed people. While everyone around the world sympathizes with the loss of children, drone strikes are not arbitrary and do not target mass volumes of people for the shear sake of harm. They are specifically targeted at cowards, who utilize their own people for cover. To believe there is any comparison is not only intellectually false, but any attempt to push the agenda otherwise demonstrates fraud on your part.

    I work for no government, have traveled the world, and have been known to be an independent thinker. So while I may not approve of certain policies by the U.S. (or other) government(s), having an education in the sciences and engineering (thus, deductive reasoning) allows me to show how completely and utterly unintelligent these posts are.

    • Vusi April 16, 2013 at 5:48 pm #

      And dropping drones on the cowards is not cowardly itself? The reason there are so many uninformed people is that the media sells people a lot of garbage and people swallow it without reasoning for themselves, Americans in particular.

  56. djdm April 16, 2013 at 2:10 pm #

    If you or your country use violence too solve problems them you are preforming an act of terrorism. There is no justification for either sides of this argument they are both equally as guilty.

  57. Peter Sedin April 16, 2013 at 2:17 pm #

    For every dead civilian terrorists gain hundreds of followers. There will be no pretty end to this for the US.

  58. alan April 16, 2013 at 2:19 pm #

    you kill the snakes when he is young its call preemptive strike ……. terror is terror and terrorists are bride form young age …..

    • Edd April 16, 2013 at 2:29 pm #

      try to use your brain next time and say something useful, please

    • zTim April 16, 2013 at 4:08 pm #

      Idiot.- thats all.

    • Axumia (@axumia) April 18, 2013 at 11:54 pm #

      You must be an Israeli Zionist zealot who may have killed lots of young children based on your warped logic then?

  59. Samantha April 16, 2013 at 2:47 pm #

    You have no idea how hard it is to be in a foreign country, and not be able to explain the logic of America. All my friends in South Korea keep asking me why America would o such a thing… and I have no way of answering them. I feel shame when they ask me questions about this, because to them, this is what I am as well. Its not just Pakistan and Yemen, but other countries will see this too and wonder about what America is really like.

  60. James David Audlin April 16, 2013 at 2:57 pm #

    My most recent blog expresses a very similar view.

    http://rantingthetruth.blogspot.com/2013/04/bombed-in-boston-weeping-in-somalia.html

    Also check out my books at http://audlinbooks.com

  61. american April 16, 2013 at 3:01 pm #

    We dont use child soldiers never have, never will, we also don’t brain wash our children they are free to think and believe what they want without backlash. Everyone who serves in our military does it on their own accord. Maybe we should just let them blow each other up in a nuclear war over there since everyone is so convinced we are the terrorist. This article pisses me off.

    • God Bless America April 16, 2013 at 3:37 pm #

      american…….. I’m with you! The more I read here, the more I get pisst off!

    • zTim April 16, 2013 at 4:12 pm #

      really? So kids in class rooms don’t start each day with Brain-Wash 101?
      Your media does not selectively report only that which they know will appeal to the popular opinion?
      I have many American friends who have , in their words escaped the brain wash, and moved down here. Where we are still currently free to have our own views, and the right to express them.
      You are so indoctrinated into the “system” you don’t even know that you are.

    • Kathy Barker April 16, 2013 at 4:56 pm #

      The USA has used child soldiers and continues to pressure minors in high schools to join the military, in defiance of the U.N. Optional Protocol of the Rights of the Child. The No Child Left Behind Act requires public high schools to let military recruiters into the schools and requires schools to give the military the students’ home contact information. They use very sophisticated coercion techniques, based on the propensity to join the military studies they do. Rural areas, single parent, etc- kids are targeted. It is wrong, and it is brainwashing.

    • Vusi April 16, 2013 at 6:06 pm #

      Have you ever asked yourself how is it possible that so many nations in the world despise America? Surely so many people cannot all be wrong while America alone is right. And why should your government go around ‘liberating’ so many countries? Just last week you were meddling in the affairs of Korea and sorry to say but you got blindsided in your own backyard while meddling overseas. But we all know what all this is about, resources and imperialism.

      The whole point of war is to take by force what is not yours and either improve on it or destroy it. This age is no different from 500 B.C. Men are men and they are driven by the same passions, man 3000 years ago is no different from man now.

      America should stop it’s hypocrisy of having all these altruistic values and come clean and admit that it wants resources and conquest.

      • Vusi April 16, 2013 at 6:09 pm #

        Addressed to @American.

  62. christian nasta April 16, 2013 at 3:16 pm #

    sick world we live in, still not enough love
    flowing through mans heart.. still not enough courage and strenght in good hearts to get to the top and stop the movie.
    nobody will for now, there is still more darkness than light, impurity is a fashion and money is #1
    thats how it has always been and thats how it will continue unless something realy big happens that will unite the tribes again.

  63. Exposing the Big Game April 16, 2013 at 3:21 pm #

    Reblogged this on Exposing the Big Game and commented:
    We should accept neither. We should fight against both.

  64. K Waltz April 16, 2013 at 3:36 pm #

    I didn’t “come” to the United States, I was born here.

  65. Jim Buonopane April 16, 2013 at 3:41 pm #

    all these names are made up

    • Sunnah April 16, 2013 at 4:35 pm #

      No they are not. One of them was American civilian Abdel- Rahman Anwar al Awlaki | 16 | male killed in Yemen.

  66. Jayne April 16, 2013 at 3:50 pm #

    This list that is provided here is a partial list of children killed, that was published around 4 months ago. Full article here:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-children-killed-by-americas-drones-crimes-against-humanity-committed-by-barack-h-obama/5320570

  67. Sir Reginald Worthington IV April 16, 2013 at 4:14 pm #

    I don’t mean to be a dick but the more of them dead the less of them will grow up to become suicide bombers and terrorists. It’s a sad truth, but a truth I am OK with.

    • Sid April 16, 2013 at 8:45 pm #

      Congratulations @Sir Reginald for posting the most despicable comment here. YOU are everything that is wrong with this world.
      I hope to God you get to live a life they’re living for one day and then see if you’re OK with it…. You don’t even deserve to be called a human.

      • Sir Reginald Worthington VI April 17, 2013 at 2:22 am #

        This seems like quiet the problem to the rabble, I come from a long line of family money, my great grandfather was even knighted. The Worthington named has prospered thru the generations, so as to your comment you can pray your life away to whatever make believe god you would like, but a Worthington will never even come close to being in the presence of such filth let alone how did you put it, “live a life they’re living for one day.” I have seen how they live their life, spouting nonsense from some book that they translate as kill as many infidels (Americans) and you will be rewarded with virgins, they teach this to their young and cultivate a whole new batch of future terrorist. To enlighten you we’re my thoughts on this come from, my younger sisters husband served and was ordered overseas and died,he was killed by a bomb they little bastard with the apparatus that detonated it was 12 years old, please explain to my 6 year old niece and 10 year old nephew how it was possible their father was killed by some one almost my nephews age. My uncle, my fathers only brother was killed during 9/11, he was in some pointless meeting, all the money and power we could want but nothing can protect us from such acts of violence. So when I say it’s okay for their future terrorist die, it’s because if they die my niece and nephew would still have a dad, my father would still have a brother, I would never wish it to happen to some one else but I would bet my family fortune if it meant saving your loved ones you wouldn’t think twice. These are just the simple thoughts of some one who has harbored hate for the pain they caused my loved ones. I have made sizable contributions to fund these “child killing”attacks and I would gladly go to whatever fictitious hell as long as I never have to see my loved ones in the pain I had to witness before. I also beg you do not take this personal, these are just my thoughts from my standing, I do not know how you have been affected personally if at all by these terrorists.

        Sir Reginald Worthington VI

    • Axumia (@axumia) April 19, 2013 at 12:32 am #

      “I have seen how they live their life, spouting nonsense from some book that they translate as kill as many infidels (Americans) and you will be rewarded with virgins, they teach this to their young and cultivate a whole new batch of future terrorist.”

      The Koran says nothing like that! Seems you have been feeding on lots of Zionist media propaganda against Islam and Muslims!

      And nothing can change such a mindset – because from the outset, you and millions of other souls in the West (assuming you’re an American and not a disguise!), have been fed on false and fabricated information from cradle to death – through the mass media, movies, education, government etc.

      But, my hope is that many in the Western world will one day wake up to the truth – and will see through all these lies.

      I’m a little bit optimistic as I’ve already seen some little signs of this from some of the posters on this thread.

  68. Ebraheem April 16, 2013 at 4:20 pm #

    Kudo’s for everybody shutting up “George” the veteran…

  69. wanderingmuses31 April 16, 2013 at 4:25 pm #

    Thank you for posting something that, at the very least, keeps the conversation going.

  70. Fletcher Mike April 16, 2013 at 4:25 pm #

    Ms. Moran should be ashamed of equating the event yesterday in Boston to children being murdered as a matter US “POLICY”. The straw man argument she is making is disrespectful to the intelligence of the reader. Yesterday only civilians were targeted and with disregard for race, religion, sex or age. US policy has many times sacrificed US Military lives in order to not put at risk women and children. Standard operating policy for those fighting US forces in the ME is to hide behind women and children and Mosques. Make a clean argument Ms. Moran, many of those children were no doubt killed because there family decided to attack the US and then hide behind their kids.

    • eDan April 16, 2013 at 9:19 pm #

      Well said, Fletcher. Absolutely correct.

  71. Haters April 16, 2013 at 4:26 pm #

    The irony of this whole thing is most of these commenters support abortion, which kills babies by the millions every year. Oh but it’s freedom of choice and it’s their body, they should be able to do what they want.

    Killing is killing no matter what country or what age. Those of you Americans who call us terrorists should be ashamed of yourselves. I can tell the political slant most of these people identify with by their bs comments and I say, at least you got your Nobel Prize winner steering the ship. Can’t wait for my tax dollars to keep going towards wars and abortions.

  72. Earth First! Journal Cascadia Office April 16, 2013 at 4:32 pm #

    Let’s also keep in mind that there’s probably a good cause to suspect that it may have been a white supremacist/christian fundamentalist group. Remember Spokane? Well, look at what the Westboro Baptist Church is saying/doing right now… here’s a little snippet: “Massachusetts invited this special wrath from God Almighty when it was the FIRST STATE to pass same-sex marriage on May 17, 2004. As a direct and immediate result of that first step down the slippery slope to nationwide fag marriage, God sent the devastating bombs to the Boston Marathon.”

  73. Mary April 16, 2013 at 4:33 pm #

    First, the killing of any child or any other person is horrific AND there is no justification.
    Second, If you do not like US Policy then leave your warm comfy home, your big house, your super size refrigerator, you 3000lb car and all your electronics and MOVE to ANOTHER TERRORIST COUNTRY. .

    • Haters April 16, 2013 at 4:39 pm #

      Love it!

    • Vusi April 16, 2013 at 6:20 pm #

      @Mary. I’d like to hear what you will say when the day comes that a foreign country exercises it’s policy on you. Don’t forget that there are currently 5 superpowers in the world now, some of which in who’s affairs America has meddled in.

  74. msc777 April 16, 2013 at 4:43 pm #

    The USA has just got so used to their self-appointed title of ‘world’s hero’ that they no longer believe they can do any wrong. I’m all for humanitarian aid and protecting countries too weak to protect themselves. This does NOT mean selling arms to countries with a reputation of frequent extremism against neighbouring countries; this does NOT mean chasing terrorist factions into these country’s civilian populated cities and then sending drones and air strikes to bomb the entire area. There are many ways to accomplish the objective without these kinds of procedures, I mean they might as well go back to a ‘certain ww2 technique’ of carpet bombing cities, for all the good they’re doing. But unfortunately the USA is so fixed on the end result of ‘crushing the bad guys’ or ‘protecting their investments’ or whatever their objective may be, that the majority of the government and general public turn a blind eye to what ever means are being used. And as you can see from reading most of the defensive comments from Americans, they always fall back to that good ol’ 9/11 excuse, an isolated day of attack from a single extremist group. All the government has to do is use a blanket term like terrorist to describe any number of the countries they have attacked and their reasons for doing so and their public just lap it up.

    • epicfailure April 16, 2013 at 5:26 pm #

      I think it’s funny how so many people on here can deny having any part of it. You live on this planet too, that being said, while all of you people sit back bitching about right and wrong, our children are dying. Saying the usa did this and irac or whatever country it is this time did that, will accomplish NOTHING. If you want to bitch, get off your asses and fight for what you believe is right. You have no voice if you will not open your mouth, shame on you.

      • msc777 April 16, 2013 at 9:05 pm #

        when you say ‘our children are dying’ you mean….?
        My point is you (as a nation) should be worrying about your own country and what it’s doing to itself, instead of having a military presence in countries you have no place being in. I’m assuming you’re american from the fact that you spelt it irac. Also i’m not american or in the usa, so i’m not sure what part i had in your countries invasion of the middle east.

    • Vusi April 16, 2013 at 6:14 pm #

      True.

  75. seenitfirsthandinIraq&Afghanistan April 16, 2013 at 5:17 pm #

    This post is a bit off. Some of these so called “children” that are listed as 17-19. We as the US have 17-19 year olds fighting in our military, why is it any different, we don’t post how many American “children” were killed in a battle because they are of fighting age and in the military. Many countries listed have 14 year olds old fighting on the battlefield. Sorry but if a 14 year old has any intent to kill/harm me or any of my brothers-in-arms they will be killed! Do to the error I feel misdirection is the true intent and now hold the entire article to be faults and a fraud and completely counter act the point you were trying to make. My views of the war is one thing but trying to act like we just kill “children” everyday and for no reason is wrong…. good thing our country is a place where you can post things like this without being PUNISHED for it… unlike the countries listed in “your” article.

  76. we'reallhuman April 16, 2013 at 5:31 pm #

    The US government, big time tycoons & politics are terrorizing them – not regular US civilians. Its a shame either has to happen, and it only brings more anger & hatred into this already toxic world, where we can never look at our neighbor with trusting eyes again; but its pretty disgusting anyone would think “well, you guys have it coming” – the women, children & men in Boston are just as innocent as the victims in this senseless ”War on Terror”, ”War for freedom” or whatever pixiedust headline the media wants to call it. I lived in NY my whole life, witnessed the horrors of 9/11. Recently I live in Europe, and the things I hear people say really disturb me – so hauntingly apathetic. Don’t hold the PEOPLE, the everyday 7-days-a-week civilians of the US accountable for decisions they have no control over. As for the ”war”, the Obama administration can pull out troops tomorrow if they wanted to…but bigger boys are calling the shots, and they’ve got too much of their own interests on the line.

    Such a shame that a human life is worthless in the eyes of greed & power.
    Sympathy for the Middle East,
    sympathy for US civilians,
    sympathy for anyone who loses their life or limb senselessly.

  77. James Fazio April 16, 2013 at 5:59 pm #

    I take it you are also entirely and just as adamantly against killing the unborn child in the womb, for which, US is responsible for over 55 million child deaths…oh wait a minute: I imagine you would probably call that just a choice, amirite?

  78. Doodledie April 16, 2013 at 6:16 pm #

    I read a lot of complaining, so what is the solution? Anyone have a solid plan on how to stop things like this happening, that they can actually contribute to? Joining the military and killing even more kids does not work in my opinion. But a bunch of people are also gonna think “I’ll post this on FB or on some other page and make people aware”. Yeah, it’s a good idea, but it won’t change anything either. Even if the Media picks it up, THE GOVERNMENT OWNS THE MEDIA. They even own the internet, just take a look at China…
    The only thing you can do, to finally stop this craziness, is walk into your closet pack your things gather your family and get the hell out of the country. You have the freedom to go anywhere you want. There are about 200 countries in this world, go find one that fits you. North Koreans can’t leave there country like Americans can, thats why they are, the way they are. That is why they believe, what they believe. If you want faster results, then stop buying american things. Stop giving them more and more money (definitely it is easier, when you have left the country, then to stay there and avoid american products).
    The truth is, it is hard to think about theses things, when you are happily stuffing your face with a nice Baconator, or spend a fun day in New York shopping. So if you really want to end this, then go out and experience new things, because that is the only thing that will bring change.

    • Sad... April 16, 2013 at 9:04 pm #

      It’s shocking how over 6 billion people on this planet cannot collectively find a handful (in comparison) of people in each country to run their politics so that these atrocities do not occur. We should learn from countries like Switzerland, Oman n Saudi, who’s sultans spend their wealth on looking after their people and not allowing their countries to get caught up in political repercussions or bomb other countries. Surely The Caveman lived a more peaceful and proud life. Our leaders should be ashamed ( Every single one who is responsible) regardless of which part of the world they are from. I wish that they visualise and imagine how their children would look in a heap of dirt like the children in the picture above…maybe then they will develope a conciounce!

  79. thestrangetwo April 16, 2013 at 6:16 pm #

    Reblogged this on The Strange Two.

    • joeyrover April 17, 2013 at 1:31 am #

      funny how people think the USA invented war… been around for centuries. . if you think you’re the master of reality then stop it.. if not, get off the high horse, mourn the children, fight the machine, and stop talking crap about the troops.. all you’re doing is being tough on the internet.. p.s. quit with the google smarts. that is why we suck as a humans.

  80. jcdchawk April 16, 2013 at 8:20 pm #

    What happened in Boston is far different than the Drone attacks. The Drone attacks whether right or wrong are intended to stop terrorist. Terrorist who kill many more innocent mid-easterners than the Drone attacks ever will. There is no deliberate attempt to kill innocents during Drone attacks. That is not to imply that more could not be done to protect innocents during such attacks. Of course it can be hard when terrorist put themselves among innocents knowing that it can cost those people their lives.

    What happened in Boston was nothing more than deliberate murder of innocents. At this point I lean towards it being domestic. But even if it is a foreign attack it is still murder, and some of those killed or injuries likely support stopping the violence in the mid-east and some are too young to even understand the issue.

    What happened in Boston was morally wrong and those who deliberate went out to harm innocents will eventually rot in hell as no God/Allah would ever allow them into paradise.

    • Sad... April 17, 2013 at 6:28 am #

      I agree, this false concept and propaganda that the Western media has spread is again misleading non-Muslims. NO WHERE IN THE QURAN DOES IT SAY TO KILL WILL TAKE YOU TO PARADISE. Infact the Quran repeatedly states ‘ to kill 1 person is to kill the whole of humanity’.
      AND TO YOU ALL WHO ARE JUSTIFYING OR ACCEPTING THE ABOVE PICTURE OF DRONES as “collateral damage” KINDLY STOP BEING SO IGNORANT and acting as if every time one of these drones goes off 100s of terrorists are caught or killed. It has been well established, reported and proved that over 95% of the time there WERE NO TERRORISTS within the vicinity. So please stop living in la-la land. Thanx.

    • sherry awan April 23, 2013 at 5:09 pm #

      How come 4 year old Pakistani boy killed by ur drone is going to harm us For us UIS drones are terrorists and Boston are just blow back of Foreign policy

  81. Giovanni April 16, 2013 at 8:28 pm #

    It seems like we all seem to have forgotten how it is to love. We spend so much time judging and hating each other that we’ve managed to lose site of the beauty that lies deep within. One day though. #Hope #Rewordit

  82. mike April 16, 2013 at 8:47 pm #

    funny how everyone is caught up with the ages of the dead THEY ARE DEAD!!! and should not be… as well as the folks at the Boston marathon… Terrorism is terrorism no matter what political spin one puts on it!!

  83. Chris April 16, 2013 at 8:52 pm #

  84. Erika Yost April 16, 2013 at 8:55 pm #

    I do think this post was hastily slapped together. Starting with “To murder several runners…” So far we know that two spectators were murdered. Not sure if the third person was a runner or not. While I agree entirely that the U.S. commits egregious attacks of terrorism (there is no other word for it) and has done so for a long time, I think this would have been a good opportunity to write a compelling and detailed explanation of “why bring this up now.” Clearly this got people’s attention and maybe that is the point, but more substance would have been welcome.

  85. eDan April 16, 2013 at 9:38 pm #

    Regardless of your opinion on the drone war, this particular piece of insensitive, simplistic propaganda has no place in the hours following a tragedy of this sort. Here is why it is simplistic and inaccurate:

    “To murder several runners using bombs at a sporting event is terrorism.”

    Whoever wrote this obviously had no concept of the actual event. From the information I have seen, no runners were killed; the death toll as of this morning was three, but there were almost 200 injuries, some of them serious, and almost all of them bystanders, not runners. However one wants to spin it, this description is woefully inaccurate to describe the events in Boston yesterday.

    “To murder 175 children using military drones is U.S. policy.”

    It is absolutely NOT U.S. policy to murder children, and that number is suspect in any case. But leaving aside the dubious sourcing of the data, If that truly were U.S. policy, it would not have taken a decade to rack up 175 child casualties; the military could have killed 100 times that many in five minutes using much cheaper dumb bombs. Obviously, killing children was not the policy goal, and any children killed by drones do not fall under the accepted definition of “murder” during military operations.

    This is not to excuse such deaths, and we could debate the issues that emerge as a result of defining drone activity as “war” (we have ALWAYS maintained different definitions of “murder” and “casualties” during wartime), but the point is that any deaths of children resulting from drone activity are a far cry from the goal of “U.S. policy”, which is the picture this simplistic piece of propaganda attempts to paint.

    And before anyone engages in the specious argument that the children are just as dead, regardless of the intention, I submit that there are very real differences. Even accepting for the moment the suspect 175 children figure, more children have died from automobile airbags than have died from U.S. drone strikes. Are auto makers also just as guilty as terrorists who intentionally target civilians? After all, those children are “just as dead”.

    Intentions matter. Circumstances matter. There is a difference between an eight year old killed in a war zone amid enemy combatants and an eight year old killed on a peaceful city street surrounded by civilian non-combatants. And the difference has nothing to do with the children’s respective nationalities or the color of their skins.

    That said, I do believe in the need for a public debate about the long-term efficacy of a drone policy. I have serious concerns about the pros and cons of such policies. But again, the type of overly simplistic comparisons between two completely different scenarios, as is suggested by this piece of blatant propaganda exploiting a tragedy to further an agenda, is not the appropriate way to engage in a serious discussion. The issue is just not that simple, and the victims in both scenarios deserve better.

  86. BCDYS33 April 16, 2013 at 10:00 pm #

    Except there’s a huge difference in American casualties and foreign casualties. U.S. Drone Attacks are not acts of terrorism that harm American citizens. On a large scale, 175 children killed over the course of roughly eight years of drone attacks in Pakistan and Yemen is nothing. There have been 432 drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen. The total number of deaths from those strikes in between 2500-5000. The total number of militant (enemy) deaths are at roughly 2000. So looking at those statistics, 175 children dying from Drone Attacks is not really a “tale of two terrorisms.” In any war, regardless of the weapons used, there will be civilian and unintended fatalities. Drone Attacks have not started civilian fatalities in war; that has been around forever. What happened in Boston is a horrific act of terrorism. Drone Attacks on enemies to the U.S. is not even close to being an act of terrorism.

    • Sad... April 17, 2013 at 5:56 am #

      … I ask you ALL, EXACTLY WHAT RESULTS, IN TERMS OF CAPTURE, HAS THESE DRONES PROVIDED?
      So much collateral damage, for how many terrorists caught? I ask YOU ALL, post a drone attack if that were YOUR CHILD lying there, what would you feel & truthfully, WHAT WOULD YOUR MENTAL STATE OF MIND BE? Please EVERYONE just answer this basic question, I believe this debate will then automatically come to a conclusion. My heart goes out to the family and victims of Boston, 9/11, Chile, Pakistan, Yemen, Romania, Conga, Iran, Iraq and of course Afghanistan.

  87. Martir April 16, 2013 at 10:05 pm #

    No one has the right to kill others, we should learn how to live in harmony.
    This planet is so big, we should work together on finding a room and live in PEACE.

  88. Patti April 16, 2013 at 10:42 pm #

    As an American, I hope that if these horrible claims are true that we find the means and guts to change it. I can only say that as a human being it is my job to look for the truth, to not believe anything just because it was on TV or touted as “the correct” view by anyone. I am committed to being a thoughtful, inquisitive, pro-life citizen of this planet. I will not align with anyone, from anywhere,who has an agenda for greed or power. At the same time, I will defend the citizens in the US that I see everyday who feel the same way. We must not forget that the government does not define all of its citizens. I will reach out to others who live elsewhere with the same mindset. The language, border, color, or faith will not be a filter as I seek out my true allies.

    • Sad... April 17, 2013 at 6:16 am #

      Please run in the next elections… Your country clearly needs people like you (as do most other countries) leading it (for the sake of other countries and generations too Patti).

    • Henry April 17, 2013 at 7:21 am #

      good on you Patti!

  89. A. I. Sajib April 16, 2013 at 11:33 pm #

    Reblogged this on AIS Journal and commented:
    Seriously. I thought of writing something about it but this list doesn’t need anymore writing.

  90. Jill April 16, 2013 at 11:53 pm #

    The loss of ANY human life due to violence is horrific. I can’t even wrap my head around this agenda.

  91. Khanak April 17, 2013 at 12:33 am #

    THIS ARTICLE IS FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG.

    Because if there were no drone attacks, there would have been a Boston type of Bombing 2 -3 times every year in the USA.

    The author implies that Muslims will retaliate when attacked. But the fact is not only retaliation – its more than that. With regard to Islam in general, not a few Muslims who you know, I say this
    1- If you attack a Muslim he will attack you
    2 – If you dont attack a Muslim, he will attack you
    3 – If you ignore a Muslim, he will attack you
    4 – If you are nice to a Muslim, he will attack you

    The only way is more and more attacks, the attack on Islam must be severe, so they get scared of retaliation.

    After reading this article, think a little bit, why does no Muslim attack China over ill treatment of Uighurs. Because Muslims know that the Chinese are as Ruthless as Muslims, and there is nothing like a mitigating public opinion in China. That’s why they don’t attack China.

    • ankysocial April 17, 2013 at 2:21 am #

      Good catch.

      In fact, the USA should just just exterminate every other country and every other religion.

      NO one can guarantee we won’t attack you guys in near future right? Hey you won’t know when the chinese will turn against you, will you? You won’t know when mexico will attack from below, will you? Heck, you won’t even sure if the britain will never stab you from behind.

      So you have the weapon, you have the law, you need to keep your liberty. What are you waiting for? Kill us all!

    • anaconda April 17, 2013 at 4:50 am #

      dear reader. I have lots of muslim friends and they don’t attack me. Respect

    • Yasemin April 17, 2013 at 5:37 am #

      Khanak, no one has a monopoly on evil. If you look back on the history of other religions other world philosophies are wrought with brutality and violence and acts against humanity. No on likes to advertise that Hitler himself was a Christian. You’ve never really spent time with muslims I take from your post. I won’t try to convince you otherwise. I am just sad that your post implies that the killing of muslims is ok. It’s truly sad that you support such a heinous act. They are people too. And most of them are just peaceful folks trying to make a living like you and I.

    • Sad... April 17, 2013 at 6:09 am #

      … WITH REGARDS TO ISLAM IN GENERAL… you should have put your name down as IGNORANT, if you have the guts, I defy you to pick up a copy of the Quran in any language, read it COMPLETELY and I guarantee before turning the last page YOU WILL HAVE CONVERTED to become a Muslim, as the teachings of the Quran are so beautiful and peace loving… OR you can be one of those ignoranious historic beings that will be looked upon by future generations and simply laughed at for your stupendous views and statements which are clear plagiarisms of cheap Western media headlines!

  92. Lawrence April 17, 2013 at 1:03 am #

    Important to watch!

  93. Will April 17, 2013 at 1:37 am #

    I do not condone drone attacks on Children…and I’m certain our govt doesn’t either. No one in the world wants to kill kids. But i know If I were in their position, I’d use this to my advantage. I’d keep women and children around me for “protection”… They’re smart like the Vietnamese… Spin it so the US govt is only killing women and children so the liberal constituency can eat it up like hotcakes and sway public opinion….

    Regardless, take a closer look at the article. Don’t just read the headline. (Also this article seems to be written under the assumption that the Boston attacks were not domestic).

    If you look at all the names under Pakistan (roughly 100 or so?), there is only ONE female. Also, since when do we consider 19 yr olds “children”? The avg age in there is also around 15~16..?? Hmmmm…that should raise some obvious flags. To me, and yes this obviously is not backed by evidence, drone attacks on terrorist compounds that have recruited “young men” seems to be the logical rationale.

    There are also clear differences in the attacks. US drone attacks have clear targets. The target is usually a suspect terrorist. Avoiding civilian deaths is as much of the goal as killing the terrorist.

    These attacks on western countries are designed to kill ONLY civilians. They are also timed so that the bomb’s killzone is in a highly populated/congested area, and during public events.

    I think there is a clear difference here. Maybe it’s just me.

    This argument could only be made if we were conducting drone attacks during Mecca…which we are not and will never do.

  94. Gerrad Dofus April 17, 2013 at 2:06 am #

    The Real question is how big are the tombstones? Or they just write the names really tiny so they can fit? Easy way to fix the problem is to use bigger bombs and more of them, if they are all dead no one can complain….

  95. Matias April 17, 2013 at 2:42 am #

    Damn… America surely needs to justify their following target. Probably they where Korean terrorist, one can only assume.

    • Matias April 17, 2013 at 2:43 am #

      terrorists.

  96. shut up April 17, 2013 at 2:47 am #

    Seriously guys? Is peace plausible? Stop,kidding yourselves and accept war will always be around. Yes it’s sad but get over it! For fucks sake.
    Kill one to save many is well worth the unfortunate collateral damage of war? You really that stupid to think America is purposely attacking civilians? They attack the war lords and terrorists and likely get them but the cowards hide amongst civilians. Gotta look at bigger picture and grow up!
    Pathetic.

  97. alyasimone April 17, 2013 at 3:30 am #

    Reblogged this on sugarhigh. and commented:
    The Boston Marathon bombing vs US military drone murders

  98. Brian Bruzzo April 17, 2013 at 4:00 am #

    This is not an accurate comparison, and one that I find a little offensive. If we are assuming that the bombs at the Boston Marathon were a terrorist attack, then killing innocent people is the point of that attack. Unless you’re telling me that the USFG specifically picks out innocent children for murder, there is a very big difference between the two actions. I for one believe that killing terrorists we cannot apprehend is totally justifiable, and while I think we allow for FAR too much collateral damage, the distinction between killing innocents by accident and killing innocents on purpose is still huge.

  99. Hopeful Cynic April 17, 2013 at 4:38 am #

    Here are my thoughts on this:
    http://esperanzaroja.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/the-boston-marathon-and-u-s-drone-attacks-a-tale-of-two-terrorisms/
    Whats more interesting than my post itself though, is all the racist comments I received right after posting it. It is amazing how people ignore the parts where “All lives are equally valued” is emphasized, and jump straight into concluding that this is hate or insensitivity towards the victims of the Boston bombing and might even go as far as interpreting it as a justification to it, when it merely is a comparison; one that is supposed to expose a harsh reality of double standards and schizophrenic human values, and trigger thought about what is the real root cause of all this violence. Civilians are victims in both cases, it is the government’s twisted bullying foreign policies that are to be held responsible for the falling of those victims, in both cases, directly and indirectly…….. Ok I think I’m posting this as a comment on my blog too! lol

  100. anaconda April 17, 2013 at 4:47 am #

    stop saying something wrong about United States of America. The drone is watching you !
    I wish that one day, this country will dissapear from this Planet. They should find a planet just for them, to kill and live happy and leave the fuck us alone !!!

  101. Yasemin April 17, 2013 at 5:31 am #

    I think this post is good to show folks that no one has a monopoly on evil. We need to stop pointing fingers at each other and form a zero tolerance towards violence war of any kind or mankind itself is doomed. We need to start valuing life over being right. It’s hard when its your children and parents are being killed but if we don’t have a zero tolerance against violence we will keep making excuses to kill more people. NO MORE EXCUSES. We are all people. From the religious perspective, we are all creations of God. From the scientific perspective, we are all made of stardust. Naturalists, we are all creations of nature. Why do we seek to differentiate between ourselves and try to act like others are less human? Can we just stop hurting one another for goodness sake. We’ve seen it can’t start from the top down because the people at the top are happy having the most guns. We have to start from the bottom up and say no more.

  102. Andre April 17, 2013 at 6:31 am #

    shame on all of you!

    dont critise someone u dont know and u cannot unterstand in their desicions…did u go to war and had to make a choice? did u look in the eyes of the death? scared as hell?

    soldiers do the work…civilians cannot do…but they are still humans! islamic terrorists dont wear an uniform to declare their political position…they attack from behind…use women, children and civilian buildings as cover…the soldiers dont go there and say: oh yes im gonna kill all of them…! if they shoot a child…and the notice it was a wrong decision, they break out in tears too…

    go spend all of your “western” money for terroristic countrys like iran and tell them, that youre christian and youre not willing to confess to the islam…i bet you wont survive as a “free” person more than 1 week…

    there is no free confession in islamic countrys…look at the turkish country…still hunting down kurdish people…still capturing christian churches…no political rights for christians in politics…

    god bless those friendly countrys!

  103. hini barron April 17, 2013 at 6:48 am #

    Americans soo much dramatise and always feel sorry for themselves, ‘The Boston Bombing’ and they call it Terror Boo-Hoo. Afghans celebrating the Bride and Groom wedding 30 of them killed by American Drone, American Govt and his followers are the hypocrites. Obamas speech,” We will find those that did this Terroist Attack”, oh please they are Terroists themselves bombing mamas,babas,papas,sisters and brothers, nanny and gramps. They doing the same thing as Hitler thats why America is the most hated country in the world, and the UK because they are the ones that tried to steal Iraqs oil, they planted their followers in their country to do shady deals, thinking they could pull the wool over Iraqs eyes but they thougt wrong then America and the UK started the ‘WAR’ with them. And now News keep repeating the samo-samo Boston Bombing as they do whenever something little happens to that country it goes on for weeks.

  104. Daniel April 17, 2013 at 6:48 am #

    This thesis is a dangerous kind of moral equivalence.

    There is a profound difference between collateral damage caused by by the fact that there are terrorists who are targeted as they hide behind children and a terrorist deliberately targeting children.

    Indeed what both the drone strikes and the Boston bombing share in common that it is the terrorists, not the US government who bears the ENTIRE moral responsibility for the death of these children.

    Moral cause and proximate cause ought not to be confused. The proximate cause of this tragedy is the drone, the moral cause is the existence of the terrorist as a terrorist

  105. Eli April 17, 2013 at 8:43 am #

    Nothing makes me angrier than when people condemn acts of violence in the abstract and in particular, when they condemn America’s efforts to defend itself and equate it with the use of violence by jihadists who intentionally inflict pain and suffering on innocent civilians to further their cause …..how come these same people never apply the same moral construct to women who use violence to defend themselves against rape or moms who resort to violence to protect their children from predators?…..

    • msc777 April 17, 2013 at 11:19 am #

      If you want to put it in that context I’d say it’s more like a woman buying a fully automatic rifle and going down the registered offenders list mowing each one down in their own home, which of course, despite what those people have done, is wrong.
      The risk of terrorism comes from individual extremists getting through your borders, they’re not exactly firing rockets over from the middle east or flying across the ocean in special jihad fighter jets. Going to the country these few call home and destroying anything that moves is not the right tactic. That is called attacking not defending.
      I’m not saying what america is doing is an act of terrorism but just because it isn’t doesn’t make it right. Don’t forget it is home to a whole nation of civilians just trying to live their own lives just like the rest of us.

  106. Dan April 17, 2013 at 9:50 am #

    On the debate on Drones. The question you have to ask yourself is how many American lives do you want to put at risk. People say we should do anything to keep American lives safe so we invent the drone so no American soldiers are in harms way. Now people complain that innocent people are being killed by being at the wrong place at the wrong time. I think what the U.S. is focused on is keeping its soldiers safe, civilians of the foreign country come second. I am not saying it is right, I am just saying that the U.S. isnt just out there to kill children. I must also state that All super powers have done dirty things, not just the U.S., The British Screwed the world, Spain was Brutal and killed plenty in central and South America, and Russia makes us look like saints. I am not saying it’s right I am just saying we are not as bad as the rest in the big picture.

  107. Fridel April 17, 2013 at 10:32 am #

    George you are nothing but a Cu*t…

  108. ehabz April 17, 2013 at 12:58 pm #

    Reblogged this on Ehab Z.

  109. Tango April 17, 2013 at 1:15 pm #

    Yeah well kill counts dont exactly make one a terrorist. In one, innocent people were actual targets while in the other, innoncents died as colateral damage and carelessness…

    • Danny Lee April 17, 2013 at 2:02 pm #

      to me they are all terrorists and they should be sentenced to death. Drone pilots also, so they don’t start thinking that it’s all just some kind of videogame

  110. Sam Richardson April 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm #

    I appreciate your willingness to stand up for what is right and I believe these statistics are likely completely accurate. However, you should seriously consider posting actual articles where you found this evidence rather than a link to a generalized website. Not a good idea.

  111. Erin .C April 17, 2013 at 10:06 pm #

    That is so sad. I have a 3 year old son and this breaks my heart.

    • Alphagirl April 18, 2013 at 1:13 am #

      As an American- I am so so so sorry. I cannot express how heartbroken and sad I am to see that picture. I am a mother of a 20 month old child and my heart breaks for this beautiful innocent child. I no longer live in America, but I feel ashamed that the country I lived and grew up in can harm even one child. I am so sorry that your country has gone through so much pain because of America. I know we may all practice different religious beliefs, but I believe that the same God we all believe in will punish those responsible for this precious child. I am so sorry, I hope you dont believe all Americans think so callously. I dont care what country this child is from, I would give my life up to bring him back to life. Rest in peace, sweet little boy.

  112. banistersmind April 18, 2013 at 1:33 am #

    Reblogged this on Banister's Mind and commented:
    The unbalanced nature of terrorism and the actors who conduct it – aka we are all culpable.

  113. drkishoreraj April 18, 2013 at 1:50 am #

    OBEY THE GIANTS is the rule but we should understand that elephants can get into trouble with ants, not to forget vietnam and North Korea is way too powerful that what America thinks it to be

  114. drkishoreraj April 18, 2013 at 1:56 am #

    OBEY THE GIANTS is the rule but to remember elephants can get into trouble with ants, not to forget Vietnam and Somalia and the North Korea that is a way too powerful that what America thinks

  115. freethinker April 18, 2013 at 6:38 am #

    Please then tell me, who exactly is responssible for the death of these children? Which one of you righteous people does do anything to keep them out of the hands of war lords or Taliban?

  116. Hare Krishna. April 19, 2013 at 1:47 am #

    Innocents should’nt be harmed anywhere, policymakers deserve the punishment for any wrongdoings, hey….nobody is talking about Hiroshima & Nagashaki, where millions innocents were killed at a time….well that was a political decisions….and everything is fair in love n war.

  117. Alberto April 19, 2013 at 5:14 am #

    Check out the link on my nickname. Its a comic book (8 page long) that talks very clearly (and in a funny way) about what the US policy is all about

  118. Kevin April 19, 2013 at 1:12 pm #

    Enough said.

  119. sinner696 April 20, 2013 at 11:54 am #

    All those children killed for oil. So sad.

    • Waldo Culpepper April 23, 2013 at 3:25 am #

      Killed for oil??? In Pakistan??? I don’t think so…

  120. sickofitall April 20, 2013 at 3:21 pm #

    This planet we call earth is an awful place to be! It has come to be a place where people do not have respect for human life. Murdering innocent people, innocent little children who have done no wrong and abortion is right in there as well. Innocent little babies being butchered and murdered before they are able to take a breath. SAD, SAD, SAD. When will it all end, it is getting worse each day. Everytime you turn on the TV, there is nothing but violence. Murder and violence in our schools, daycares, malls, etc. It just makes me sick!

    • sinner696 April 22, 2013 at 8:53 pm #

      My advice is stop watching tv and go outside, bad stuff is all tv news reports. In 99.9 percent of the world the bad stuff doesn’t happen. People live their lives normally, but that isn’t newsworthy so all we get is the worst bits of humanity.

  121. Sam Adams April 21, 2013 at 5:37 pm #

    Anti-war protester: How could you kill women and children??

    Vet: You just don’t lead `em as much.

  122. EF! J Collective Everglades Office April 21, 2013 at 10:31 pm #

    Check out some update, opinions, and analysis on the Boston bombings and possible Chechnya connection from the Earth First! Newswire: https://earthfirstnews.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/the-boston-marathon-bombings-chechnya-and-ecocidal-tendencies/

  123. Frank April 22, 2013 at 9:49 am #

    “Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid” words of Jesus in the Gospel of John 14:27 – whether you are a Christian (more so if you are), Muslim or Jew – can’t we all work at peace. The world created by God is big enough for all of us to live in peacfully, if we follow God’s word and Gods word is Peace (Salame or Shalom). Lets do this for our children, who are given to us by God.

  124. William DeTuncq April 27, 2013 at 3:07 am #

    The death and destruction currently being visited on us all is the manifestation of an over crowded planet. There is simply not enough wealth to go around. The problem is that the third-worlder’s are no longer willing to hold the bag for first world comforts.

    • Robert Parks May 4, 2013 at 3:42 am #

      @William DeTuncq………..Not too be rude nor am I trying too attack you on a personal level,but I have too tell you…Your Statement and opinion are so so wrong and inaccurate that I have too explain why…1st I will start by telling you the best piece of information that you have received in awhile!Do not listen too guys like Bill Gates,Ted Turner or Al Gore…It is a proven fact that there is plenty enough room and resources in the world…For Instance,There was a study done I believe maybe 8-12 months ago,and that’s that every person in the world could fit in Texas and own an acre of land!Secondly,those Afore mentioned men,are running around spreading there lies and completing there agenda by giving people like you bad information in hopes that you spread it and believe it and in there hopes,kill yourself or worse,yourself and others,See,they know that we can get along as a civilization and prosper,that’s why they are feeding us Mercury,Fluoride,MSG’s,GMO’s at massive levels,and then there’s proof of Crimes against Humanity by Barack Obama,and Bill Gates…But yet,they get away with it because of dumb,stupid,uninformed,or let’s just say,Liberal Socialist’s that are OK with it because Obama does it with a smile and tell’s you what you wanna hear…You mean too tell me that as long as you can get your Gay Marriage passed,that your OK with all the Crimes against Humanity done by our President Barack Obama,and his Administration?Do not give me the typical,Bone Headed dumb ass response of,What about what Bush did,Cause that’s another Designed manufactured game that they built so that when their is a Dialogue,the Democrat can say,What about what Bush did,Well,I think that Bush should be charged with the same crime as well as being charged with 9/11,so don’t play that game with me…Anyway…Bill Gates is the 2nd one that should be Charged with Crimes against Humanity as well,There have been 60,000 Children Paralyzed by his Polio Vaccines,but you Liberal trash stick up for him because he’s “Helping the Kids” But let me tell you,He is Helping His Pockets,his Foundation (Both Financially and Politically) and she’s helping BIG PHARMA…Not too mention,he’s also Insider Trading..What a great guy…Also William,our problems with Money started,well…It Started when we formed a Fiat Currency as well as a Paper Based Money system!The Federal Reserve is what sent it too it’s grave…We Need too go Bankrupt as a country and then get rid of the Fiat Currency (Value from Government Regulation or law) Then as a Country,we would vote too either Continue too use a Paper based Monetary value system,or too go back too what stabilized countries for 6000+ years,The Barter system as well as Gold,Silver and other Precious Metals,(My Vote ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)…Last point,Please don’t forget that Obama stole this last election by Sneaking A total of over 20,000,000 Illegal Immigrants!!!ENJOY YOUR POLICE STATE LIBERALS…

      • mike May 4, 2013 at 11:47 am #

        Don’t mean to insult you either but, YOUR NUTS!!

  125. Jason Zekler May 15, 2013 at 1:14 pm #

    It is so Terribly sad to see how naive and uneducated about the issues many of the commenters are. We can all agree that any death, particularly of innocent young children is a tragedy that should be avoided. However, to equate drown attacks to the Boston bombings is intellectually dishonest.

    1. Drone attacks are directed at militants that present a clear and present danger to american lives. They plot, plan and execute plans to attack americans in the u.s and overseas. . Unfortunately the militants know this and so they hide amung women and children and often use them as human shields. War is a dirty business and unfortunatly civilian casualties are at times unavoidable.

    conversly, Terrorists target innocent civilans directly,not as collateral damage. The americans that died in terror attacks on 9/11 were civilains at their work place.

    2. Terrorist attacks TARGET childern. In particular, the boston bombers placed the explosives low on the ground, so they could kill children (while adults lost limbs)

    Drone attacks target terrorists and many resources are dedicated to limiting collateral damage.

    To equate terrorism to drone attacks is therefor
    2.

  126. Alfred May 16, 2013 at 5:45 am #

    The US alone represents the biggest threat to all mankind.
    Check out the link on my username. Its a funny 8 page long comic book that explains the real nature of the US

  127. Tariq Khan June 16, 2013 at 5:01 pm #

    Thats all fake list. Normally neutral journalists are not allowed to visit the areas. And this doesn’t give list of terrorists killed. And if women and children are indeed killed killed thats because of the tactics of terrorists as they hide among the these peoples and use them as human shield. They are responsible for the killing of women and children. They make children to be used as suicidal bombers as well.

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